Tua Versus Marciano

rocky's best weight was 185-190.if his best weight weight was 210,he would fight with 210.

 

The point being that Frazier had a 6 lb advantage on Quarry and he was the one being drove backwards. Prime Frazier was 200-205, Marciano was 185-190. Eh, Could be 20 at the most, probably less though.

-I recall Layne having trouble moving Marciano, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and revisit the match when I get the chance.

-I believe Quarry started gassing after the second round, think in typical bad luck fashion he probably injured himsef too, think he busted his hand in the first round on the top of Frazier's head.

 

If he were fighting today..he would fight at 205-210lb, not 185lb.

 

only on juice..

 

no. he was a natural 205lber


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All he needs is a little weight training/modern nutrition/supplements.

 

And run a 4.2 forty !

 

He wasn't a natural 185lber


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You constantly underrate Marciano and Liston. Just because they were from the 50s.

 

You really are nutty ... I'm a huge Liston fan and supporter .. I also love Rocky, I'm just not in love with Rocky .. slight difference .. I happen to think Marciano fought at the best weight for him to succeed as he did. He was slope shouldered, he did not have a big frame. The weight he fough at allowed him to maximize his skill set. He did have terrific stamina that he would not have had with an unatural 15 or 20 pounds on him. He also would have been slower and easier to hit. Rocky at 187 or so was a killer cruiserweight and one of the toughest pound for pound fighters that ever lived.

 

suzie if he fought at 185,that's his best fighting weight.he had the best speed,stamina etc with 185 lbs.
if his best fighting weight was 205,he would fight at 205.
that's like saying wlads best weight is 260 because he maybe weights that much "offseason",but his best weight is light 240.
rocky probably did weight about 200 lbs offseason,but training for fights he was 185,the best weight for him
he grant,that's it :happy

 

Would u favor cruiserweights david haye, carlos de leon, tomasz adamek over him?

 

I agree. I don't think Marciano getting a professional trainer to put 10 lbs of muscle on him would suddenly turn him into a ponderous blob with no stamina.

Had Rocky fought in the modern era he would most likely consider putting on weight and fighting over 200 lbs at some point. Like every other successful cruiser before him; Holyfield, Moorer, Gomez, Adamek, he would pack on the pounds one way or another and go after the big money.

 

Exactly. Why would Rocky stay in the cruiserweight division today? who is there? All the big names end up moving up.

 

I suppose he'd probably fight J. Johnson, Dempsey, Louis, Langford, Walcott, and all those other under 200 lb sloped shoulder guys that would turn into lethargic jelly if they tired to put on enough weight to compete with the modern giants of today.

 

Please reference Joe Frazier's back width and leg circumference...I promise you that Joe Frazier's legs are extraordinarily strong...