Tommy Carruthers vs. Georges St. Pierre, who wins?

Your bias, extremely bias. Your a case of a guy I would call an educated dummy. You know some things but you use no logic and you probably can't.

And Gracie would of loss to any version of matt hughes because Gracie was one dimensional and is why most of the gracie's were losing all the time because they weren't evolving.(sakaraba submitted 3 gracies in a row) And Tank Abbott would get destroyed by any JKD expert. Tank Abbot couldn't even ****in beat KIMBO SLICE FOR CHRIST SAKES. And he's ****in bum and has no skills at all, period. And you can't base his talent off of nothing except the bums he beat up on the streets.

And I do have a clue of what i'm talkin about. UFC and most MMA orginations have rules and restrictions. And it isn't the samething if they took the rules out,(most of the guys that are champion wouldn't be anymore) so until you understand that there's a big difference in the 2, there's no point of me argueing with you no more because your bissfully unaware of your ignorance.

As for your hatred for Bruce Lee, that ain't my problem, that's something you have to deal with.

 

Only difference is I have a mind of my own and I use it, you don't.

 

Yup I've heard of it. And you posted videos to make a point that I already made to try and prove a point that Bruce Lee can't fight or Jeet Kune Do doesn't work because some Vale Tudo event's with a couple guys who entered the the competition and suck on top of that. I've seen boxers get beat up by guys who have no tornament experience at all. And you probably think cause one fighter that represents a certain style gets beat up that everybody else would too. But that's only with people who have a very limited way of thinking, and you definetly do.

 

And no a prime hughes would beat Gracie because he trains in more than one thing than Gracie did, that's the real reason.



[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeet_Kune_Do[/ame], here I'ma help you out for a sec. since your blissfully unaware of what JKD is cause you have no idea. Infact all the princlpes that MMA has to today as "asborb what's useful and discard what isn't is all in JKD. I know for fact that you've never met, trained, or seen a real JKD practicianer except Tommy Carruthers but that's not saying much because you haven't first hand experience at all to know what your talking about because you definetly don't.

And posting Vale Tudo Tornaments from Brazil still doesn't prove your point that Bruce Lee and JKD practicianers applications don't work. One of the reason's Bruce even got into the movies was to get world wide reconigtion and to change the stereotypes of the way the chinese was viewed. And trust me if Bruce had went to shitbag Brazil he wouldn't gotten even half of the fame he gets today opposed to the movie business and Bruce always claimed to be martial artist first, acting was something he was doing since he was a kid, which he picked up from his father, something you also probably don't know. As for all those guys you think could beat Bruce, I could care less what you think because at the same token they also could of challenge him and none of them did. If they would of ever did, they all would of gotten the same treatment that everyone else gotten that challenged lee. So keep posting all the clips of tornaments all you want because none of it has anything to do with your techinque(which is key element to excuting anything the right way) or your ability as a fighter.

JKD isn't made for the ring and it never was, and until you comprhehend that in your set in your own way stubborn, close minded way of yours, than it's no since of me trying to enlighten you anymore because i'm actually trying to help you because your misinformed about many things that you visualize in your own mind.

And for the last time TANK ABBOTT ****IN SUCKS. And you pretty much summed it up when you tried giving examples of fights he was competitive in and still loss to guys with skilled training in their backrounds.

You probably think everyone who competes in mma Tornaments can beat every martial artist that doesn't. Like I said said, you have a very limted way of thinking.

 

No i;m taking Lee's word based on first hand experience in Jeet Kune Do and actually finding out for myself that's it applicable and logic suggest if someone like myself can make it work, than why couldn't the creator? Like I said your very misinformed, but maybe someday you'll wake up. Nice conversing with you though.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Lee#New_life_in_America

Here's a fight history section about Bruce and eye witness Testimony since your so into tornaments and rankings,(which most americans usually are) it actually goes into details about Bruce defeating Black belt. And trust me there were many more fights that he's had that were anecdotical as well.

And btw, a friend of mines is a Brazlian Ju Jit Siu black belt and I just got into advance entry of Jeet Kune Do and he couldn't handle me. I'll let you figure out why.