John David Jackson/Herol Graham At 154 Today

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    How do they fare against the recent crop of 154 fighters?

    Antonio Margarito, Daniel Santos, Kermit Cintron, Yuri Foreman, Paul Williams, Miguel Cotto, Sergio Gabriel Martinez...

    How do they fare? Could Cintron find the "iffy" chins of both defensive fighters?

    Could tireless pressure fighters Margarito and Paul Williams catch up to either fighter?

    Would both tricky, somewhat underrated southpaws clean house on the division?
     
  2. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Graham despite some glaring flaws was a much better fighter than anyone currently at 154 or 160.He'd be far too strong for most of those fighters at 154.A fight with a smaller guy like Cotto or even Margo would be a complete manhandling and mismatch

    Jackson was a few levels below Graham imo.He fought to his strengths better and was far more focused, but often too much of a tepid overly safety-first Corro type imo, and lacked the physicality, combinations and baffling unorthodoxy.still, i'd back him against all of them.Too cagey and competent technically.
     
  3. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Any other thoughts about JDJ lora? Was he unlucky not to get the decision against Castro in their second fight, and unlucky in general to never land any big fights during his prime?
     
  4. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sergej Dzinziruk would beat him at 154 I think.
     
  5. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    General thoughts on Dzinziruk bodhi?
     
  6. PowerPuncher

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    Graham would beat everyone at 154 today, Martinez and Williams would be the toughest but he should beat both, Dzinderuk isnt beating Graham good as he is, Cotto/Margarito would be easyish fights for Graham.
     
  7. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He is a typival Eastern-European boxer-puncher. Very good movement and feet, good jab, decent punch, gote awereness and judge of distance. Very well rounded fighter. Jack of all trades, master of none. His career got wasted by Universum who hid him away in Germany. He is past it now, still looks good and didn´t have much wear and tear. Probably will be around for another 2-3 years. I hope he get´s some big money fights now that he is with Shaw.
    Best 154 pounder at the moment IMO - him and Martinez, I´d pick him.
     
  8. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was never really sold on Graham as a 154lber, although European champ, he did not make his world class name until he stepped up six pounds.

    Jackson was effective but boring, he was in some ghastly fights at 154lbs, and the quality of opposition was not too special.

    I see neither setting the world alight in the division today.