how much more would calzaghe have to do to get the respect he deserves?

I forgot eubank but i still don't count him...i LOVE prime chris but that simply wasn't it. if woodhall comes as a package deal with reid then i don't think either should count. woodhall is too much of a stretch and if your resume is resting on that, calzaghe has already lost.

this is what I meant, you have to fight and argue and look hard for credible opponents and you come up with woodhall?

I think it's more than fair saying that he had 4 real credible opponents in his life. He convincingly beat 2 of them, lacy and kessler and scrapped by reid and hopkins. those are the facts

 

*YAWN* Are you guys still going on about the regional chump calslappy? no wonder so many people hate him on these boards because his fans put him on a pedestal . . . man take this shite to the euro board . . . lets talk real boxing instead of the crap the slap happy one did!

 

For the love of god his track record is truly bleak. People rag on RJJ but his resume looks like a murderers row compared to slappy's. With RJJ you can make the argument he was holding guys back. Looking at Joe's resume he was just sparring with gym rats and pushing senior citizens and never were fighters out the door. The winner of the super 6 will easily have surpassed his entire career in 5 fights.

 

Calzaghe will never get respect from some..........

 

Bails, you could make the argument, and some have, that Calzaghe is a tale of 2 careers. Pre and Post Lacy. I agree with those who saay the competition was better post.

PS- you know my feelings on eubank. He was definitely on his way out.

 

Thats why his next to fight after was a close loss in world class and his fight after that he was ahead before pulled out with an injury, and didnt go down in either, though against Calzaghe he was soundly beaten by the underdog and put down, and Collins 3 fights before could only get a SD. These are facts

 

Calzaghe already gets the respect he deserves, if not more.

 

Yeah, i'd expect Joe beat him up pretty good, and did what a superior fighter at that stage of his career should have. He did what he had to, you can't take it away from him. But Eubank lost 3 in a row to close out his career if I remember my facts right. Wasn't Joe the 1st of those 3? Didn't he also lose 5 out of his last 8 or 9 fights?
Seems like a telling trend to me. He was on his way out. A couple of valiant losing efforts doesn't turn back the clock.

 

Be a bit more specific with the fighters mentioned on the page your discussing please.
Calzaghe beat a reigning champ in Hopkins not an ex champ in Holyfield, so what you wrote there is really clutching at straws

 

Valuev did not beat Holyfield lets get that straight !

 

If you say so, but what does this have to do with Calzaghe and his opposition?

Who have what to do with Calzaghe and his opposition?
Still Calzaghe beat em all.