Tua Versus Marciano

If Haye and Holyfield can move up from cruiserweight to heavyweight, why can't Rocky?
Holyfield and Haye are both great athletes, like Rocky, but they have modern advantages like the modern supplements and weights. I think he would have no trouble moving up in weight. Espescially since Rocky was such a great athlete, I bet he could do it no problem.

 

For a guy who could not military press 120 pounds, not a techinically difficult lift or a weight that requires much strength...

Frazier had stamina in spades but brute strength... not so much.

 

Sigh...

At any rate, here's Layne attempting to muscle Maricano. He almost puts him on the ropes once but he struggles most of the round to move him. Rocky gamely wrestles the bigger man, constantly shoving Layne off and creating room for his punches.

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Now here's the lighter Quarry pushing Frazier where ever he wants him before tiring. Smoking Joe is forced to fight off his back foot most of the first two rounds, and nearly goes through the ropes in the opening seconds as has no footing.

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Lefthook31...You keep talking about Marciano's weight.....remember...he trained his ass off...like no fighter before or sense...to get himself down to 189lbs...

 

Was he afraid of needles?

 

Tua trained his ass off to get to 235, he probably walks around at 260-270, whats your point? The weight factor is still huge.

 

this poll is disappointing

 

Tua was not a well conditioned fighter even at 220 lbs.

I guess that if he had got into the kind of shape Marciano was in he would have been 205-210 lbs with the use of weights.

The size disparity is not nearly as great as people think.

 

Well history clearly proves otherwise.

 

Both being 6'2"-6'3" probably helped a bit and the longer time between weigh in and fight time allowed them to drain a lot more and come in the ring a lot heavier

 

i don't think it has to do with race...it's about a proven champion...and i'm not white or black...

yes, i understand the mentality people have. david tua has a good chin and great power. rocky is no boxer. it's a crash of two trains and the one with more power and durability wins. but c'mon, rocky was no slurpee. he could hit too. and he had heart. and he was a proven tough guy. he could eke out victories when in tough spots. i can't say the same for tua.

on paper tua seems competitive but overall the smart money is on marciano.

 

Tua at his size vs. Marciano? I do not think this would last one round.

 

For people who don't think rocky with modern nutrition/weight lifting could have come in at 205lb today..they are sorely mistaken.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AAAAIBAJ&pg=1256,4293612&dq=don+cockell&hl=en
They are saying rocky weighes a TRIM 194lb here


Rocky was a natural 205-210lb..he cut a lot of weight to get down to 185lb. Today..rocky would go after the big prize..the heavyweight title. He would hire a personel physical trainer that would allow him to come into the ring at a chizzled 205lb without the loss of speed or stamina. Just like ALL of the great cruiserweights since 1990 have done. Why is rock the one exception?

Why would rocky stay at cruiserweight? to fight goof trooper steven cunningham?

 

Tua doesn't like it to the body. rocky TKO in a brawl.

 

Tua set punch output records in consecutive fights around this weight id say he was pretty well conditioned.