john l. sullivan vs prime bowe...

You don't know how wrong you are.

That would be like saying that Jack Johnson was no more than a 'tough man comp' winner, or Jack Dempsey was no more than a 'tough man comp' winner.

 

Sullivan was freaking 5' 10 1/2" tall and only in the 190s when he was youthful and fit..... He was bloated at 212 for his KO loss to Jim Corby in 1892 down in New Orleans.......

Johnny Sully's style may sit well with future champs from 1892 to about 1908...... Once Jackson Johnson took over in Australia, I see Sully really going nowhere from that point on..........

Sully MIGHT've been able to handle dude's like "Patterson & Ingo." But who knows??

MR.BILL

 

John L Sullivan knocks him out cold



...I hope




I really need to read the book about John L

 

Bowe KO 1 Sullivan

 

Bowe KO1

 

Sullivan only came in under 200lbs is barekncuckle fights to the finish and then only early in his career. He seems to have bee over 200lbs in all his Queensbury bouts and walked the street at 230-240 lbs.

It is hard to get an acurate picture of his size because weights of the period were routinely misreported, but I get the idea that he was bigger than Marciano and perhaps closer to Sam McVea in size.

 

The Adam Pollack biography is the definitive acount of Sullivans career at the moment.

As close as you will get to a career boxed set of his fights.

 

I just looked up Sullivan's "Tale of the Tape" in an old Ring Record Book - and if that is in any way accurate, he must have been a very compact, powerful man. While only 5'10½" his chest, biceps, neck, etc. are right up there with bigger men like Jeffries, Foreman and Liston. He certainly appears to have been much more massive than Marciano!

 

Ol' Wimpy in the middle there nearly swallowed his cigar on the second feint.

 

thank you I will check it out

 

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Sullivan tko 32nd round.

 

Come on janitor...are you really gunna tell me this physics teacher looking mother ****er has a chance against Bowe?

 

Flynn and Ward Bond in "Gentleman Jim" from '42 is perhaps my favorite classic boxing flick..... I bought the video yrs ago........ I review the film at least once a year when I'm buzzin' pretty good on Bourbon.....
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I may be mistaken but that picture of Sullivan is from 1898 I think, six years after his fight with Corbett, when it is clear that Sullivan was out of shape. This is Sullivan at close to 40 y/o, around the time of his exhibitions against Paddy Ryan at MSG, and not representative of his prime physique.

 

Are you really going to tell me, that you dont know that this picture was taken when he was an ancient disipated alcoholic off a long period of inactivity?

Why dont you find a picture of Bowe today and put it next to it?