Pacq needs MAJOR improvement before he can compete with the elite fighters.

...and pac fight bums like ledwaba, mab, em, hatton, cotto, jmm...

 

Basically Pacq has been known to duck several fighters: Mosley and Mayweather come to mind.

 

I think my case was proven in Clottey fight. Look how easy Manny was to hit in the few punches that were thrown his way. He lacks fundamentals. He needs work.

 

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Everyone? Are you even sane? Everyone of you, Jackory and Nallege, surely. But not the majority of the BWAA voters and certainly not everyone of the ESB posters.

What made you so delusional?

 

You're right! He also ducked Williams and Foreman and I wouldn't be surprised if he ducked Ward, Bute, Dawson or Adamek!

 

your thread title is about fighting elite. is mab morales cotto jmm not elite enough to you?


yeah pacquiao should train himself potshotting like mayweather right?

 

You're right, you must be a genius! Hatton and Cotto had 10 losses each before Pac fought them, right? :nut

 

Pacquiao and Haye should both have fought Wladimir by now. ATGs don't play around with "weight class" boxing like this. They just fight the best. Of all divisions.

 

Void's hero is the chicken in the Rocky movie!

 

pac didnt ducked mayweather. if there was no OSDT in the first deal, they couldve fought already.


pacquiao did not duck on shane, its roach who ducked shane since pac is new to welterweight and shane has very good power. not the right fighter to test.

 

Another stroke of a genius! You're very correct, Pac's body of work in the 2000's was mediocre to say the least! I'm sure you can name at least a dozen boxers who had accomplished better but will you be kind enough to name at least three? Judah indeed had a spectacular boxing skills but he is remember more for his spectacular losses!

 

You are talking about the fighter who did not have all the defensive tools. There is a small percentage of fighters that evolve and can add defense to their style. Manny is the best example of this is boxing history thus far. Look at his last 5 fights. Anyway you slice it the likes of Cotto, De La Hoya both brillant offense fighters never once had Manny hurt. The fighters with the best chins who never been hurt badly before or never have been down
early were savagely blinded by speed and punished with everything from right hooks to knock out counter left hands. Mathematically there are just 10x less southpaws in the world who you can practice with and only maybe 10 percent that can even have any type of crispness in both hands not just one alone. Before any fight begins with Manny and his newly effective 2 hand offense, nobody can practice to get their brain used to the angles like you can with orthodox fighters that is learned by fighters from 8-9 years old on.
This is where Floyd's shying away from offensive multi dimensional champions will negativly effect him. He will not be more able to use his natural ability because it will simply be un-natural for him. Manny will be able to end combinations with unorthadox punches that will too often find a home.

 

Cotto and late De La Hoya have no speed whatsoever. Hopefully Manny can improve his defense- maybe he already has. But that was my point in this thread. Manny needs improvement.

 

Im sure many people have campaigne for BHop and Floyd having a better body of work in that time period.

Zab's losses? Almost everybody loses- whats the big deal? Judah, at one point in time, was supposed to be the "next big thing" in boxing and take over the sport and be a P4P. Do you remember all the articles and the ESPN interviews and whatnot? His stock was soaring. And like a bubble...pop.

 

The problem with Pacq is that he lacks fundamental boxing skills.