What's it gonna take to beat Mayweather?

no one can beat him...if there is..he won't fight that one.

 

IMO it is not really one thing or a blueprint (though DLH won the 4 rounds he used the sharp jab), it's more like what it takes not to not get picked apart by Floyd. You need to be a complete, adaptable, intelligent and athletically gifted fighter to match or close the gap on Floyd's abilities and use whatever is necessary, whether it's the jab, the output, distance shots, unusual angles, the overhand right, handspeed and combination punching - I believe more than one thing could work depending on the styles and other things, but you gotta make it sure first you don't leave holes in your game.

Take Sergio Martinez for example, very long, quick jab, excellent athleticism and ring IQ, sharp reflexes - I believe he has a very decent chance beating Mayweather no matter what weight it's at, but let's say 151lbs for the sake of not having a notable weight difference.

 

random selection of opponent. up until the day of the fight, he shouldnt know who he is up against. its a way to kill a duck.

 

A faster version of Castillo. A brawler with a two fisted attack that ignores Floyd's mind games and puts on huge pressure on Floyd, that makes Floyd go into his defensive shell.

An Antonio Margarito with loaded gloves of course. He could have been the one to beat Floyd. Or a Paul Williams.

Floyd is a great fighter, too good to be outthought or outboxed. And he's good on the inside, so he can't really be roughen up if he would be, he'd most definitely use his legs and stay at distance. But one thing Floyd has got against him, is... not liking to get hit. So much that when greatly pressured, he'd focus more on defense than on fighting back.
You need a pressure cooker of the highest order... or of course, someone who is just bigger.

 

Manny Pacquiao

 

Im sure Leonard Ellerbe beats Floyd all the time :hey

 

Castillo already beat Floyd

 

Land a damn punch on him. I mean, ffs,the kid barely get's touched,Mosley got him and he wobbled.Ya gotta land a few more.I am sure you land on him consistently ya will see wariness in his eyes.Otherwise ya is going to get picked off by his slick counters he is so elusive.

 

Yup.

 

I don’t think Floyd Mayweather Junior is unbeatable but it’s going to take an exceptionally strong, elite, prime opponent, who is durable and a hard, fast and accurate puncher. His work-rate must be extraordinarily high and he should have the speed of foot to close off the ring in an instant. This opponent needs the stamina to maintain a come-forward assault for the full twelve rounds, knowing that this would be the hardest twelve rounds of boxing they were ever going to face. This opponent might also benefit from being a natural body-puncher to ensure that the unnaturally high work-rate, a once-in-a-lifetime effort, doesn’t get wasted on head-hunting, which could prove ineffective against FMJ, who is Cobra-like in his movement.

It is likely that such an opponent would have Mayweather on his bike, a lot of the time and so the question becomes, how good is Mayweather on the back foot? At any time I’ve seen him going backwards, he looks less effective. Mayweather, contrary to what many might think, is an aggressive puncher and he relies very much on being able to plant his feet to deliver his meaningful shots. This has been apparent in certain bouts in the past. The Gatti and Mitchell bouts spring to mind, which both gave the appearance of power being delivered through some very well co-ordinated leverage.

I don’t think Mayweather would have the luxury of doing this against the opponent described here, whose primary goal would be to get inside and hammer the body. Mayweather would have to move constantly in all directions, delivering shots where he could, knowing that their reduced power was unlikely to stop this opponent coming forward. Yes, he might give the impression that he’s picking his opponent off from a distance but in reality he’ll be running and he will, at times, be caught up with (to stand and trade could be costly).

A fight with an opponent of this type would be a true test for Mayweather, a defining bout, which if victorious would remove doubt from the minds of anyone who’d ever had any, although I think it more likely that facing an opponent of this type would be his undoing.

 

Makes me laugh when his fans talk about how easily Floyd would've won if he actually would've faced all those top level guys he didn't actually face.

A 135-pound Castillo roughed Floyd up a little bit and he hasn't been in with a real skilled, pressure guy since. And he never will. That's why Tzsyu never got made, that's why Margarito never got made, that's why Cotto never got made, that's why Williams never got made and it's why Pacquiao won't get made.

All those guys were/are bigger and stronger and at least as skilled as Castillo, and Floyd just didn't want none.

 

A relentless "complete fighter" - Duran @ 135 or 140, 147 not so sure. Leonard and Hearns could probably do it.
And I don't think Paul Williams can do it; Quintana countered the hell out of him all night and all Martinez needed to do was step back and land the right hook.

 

Cotto beats Floyd with pressure and brutality, Froyd knew it and ducked him.

Margarito beats him with pressure and volume, Froyd knew it and ducked him.

Williams beats up Froyd, Froyd know it and will never talk about Paul.

Pacquiao abuses Froyd with pressure, volume, rage and relentless assualts. Froyd knows it and will not sign the contract.

Many many welters would beat the highly overrated Froyd - Quartey, young Oscar, Tito, Duran, Hearns, even Benitez, SRLeoanrd. Froyd is a fraud, manufactured pretender masquerading himself as an ATG. Lotta suckers out there buy the sham.

Like the old guy said, "They a sucker born every minute."

You give Froyd some old guys and he looks the part. Just like Cooney looked like a world beater beating up on old guys like Norton and Lyle. But when Cooney got his truth serum he fell apart. Froyd will fall apart if he gets his truth serum but he ducks or retires to avoid his truth serum.

which will expose the fraud, just like it did to Cooney.

 

Put simply at this level with ATG's you simply have to be the better fighter or boxer. Pressure is only going to get you hurt, mayweather is no ***** in that ring. In my opinion you have to actually counter mayweather to make him respect you, now whether any current fighter is capable of doing that, probably not. Getting him to exchange with you is another option, perhaps pacquiao can do this, but as stupid as it sounds i dont believe he has the speed to do this. I'm talking about freakish speed which would completely overwhelm his reflexes and force him to fight in a more traditional way.

 

There is always this as well. Pacquiao has already been through that baptism of fire with his EM1 fight. Perhaps mayweather is too good to let someone do that to him, but how does he react when he is behind on the cards and will lose the fight if he doesnt look for knockdowns. We will have to see.