Fighters Who Are "Overrated" Due To A Handful Of/Singular Win

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  1. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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  2. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    You just said it yourself. He "Somehow" managed to finagle his way into the HOF. The reason? He beat Pedroza. This one victory allowed him into the hall of fame, and entry he does not deserve. So he is overrated by people who think he is hall of fame calibre.
     
  3. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You do realize duran was a lightweight for ****s sakes dont you. How do you think pernell whitaker, benny leonard or any other lightweight would do against leonard, hearns and hagler?
     
  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    When he fought Leonard in New Orleans he was THIRTY (30) years old. He had been a pro for 13 YEARS. He had a reign of terror in the lightweight division that hadn't been seen since Benny Leonard's time. Some people don't seem to realize this.
     
  5. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Seamus,

    Roberto Duran was 29 years old when he fought Sugar Ray in New Orleans. I know I know..just sayin.
     
  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    29 & 1/2 years old, 73 fights and 13 years into his career.
     
  7. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good chin as well. :good
     
  8. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    what about overrated because of a loss?
    IMO, Cooper's power is often overrated cause he knocked down a green overconfident Cassius clay.
     
  9. THEBODYSHOT

    THEBODYSHOT Active Member Full Member

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    A force the guy is a bum. Failed gold medalist. Get Koed bu a journey man, and then in the rematch gets a lucky KO to save is ass and now everybody on ESB loves him. He's a joke
     
  10. horst

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    For someone who has been around here so long, this point is mind-bogglingly stupid.

    Duran was a lightweight from the 1970s, and Leonard was a welterweight from the 1980s.

    Therefore of course Leonard did better at welter, light-middle and middle in the 1980s than Duran did. :patsch
     
  11. Jersey Joe

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    Really? How far would his rating dive without the Leonard win?

    Also, you seem to be acting like a great win doesn't deserve a lot of credit. The fact is, he *did win* that fight - and that deserves credit in the form of a much higher rating. Just as you can't overstate a win massively, so you can't act like it doesn't matter at all.

    In fact, this whole thread is kinda stupid because most examples are ones like this. It's like saying Ali wouldn't be so highly rated if he lost to Foreman. Well, no **** Sherlock. What next - Bill Gates wouldn't be so rich if he didn't have so much money? Megan Fox wouldn't be hot if she didn't have such a pretty face? You guys crack me up :D
     
  12. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tua also KO'd John Ruiz and a plenty more dangerous and worthy contenders of his time.
     
  13. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Corrie Sanders also has a decision win over Ross Puritty , and 1st rd. stoppages over Carlos De Leon , Michael Sprott and Al Cole , and then a 2nd rd. stoppage over Bobby Czyz. At least he could handle smaller men (except of Puritty and Klitschko) better than Joe Louis , Jim Jeffries , Muhammad Ali and even better than your other hero : Sonny Liston.
    And I even did not mention a 10 rounds decision over Johnny Nelson.
     
  14. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But Sonny Liston is underrated.
    Here is my first idea : Sonny Liston . Yes , he has 2 impressing wins , but they are both against the same fighter : Floyd Patterson.
    And while one can consider Cleveland Williams dangerous (maybe for a LHW like Patterson) , Williams would have done worse than Joe Mesi did in Mesi's era , just like he did worse in his own era.
    Toney and Tua , 2 overrated fighters :-((
     
  15. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    While I agree with you about both Foreman and SuzieQ , Marciano still deserves some credit for his wins which came against men about his own size whom fought years later (except of Louis and Walcott) , not that I think he would have stopped Lewis , or even last the distance against him.