What methods do different trainers use?

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  1. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    i started this in the brit section to avoid the whole roach-peds bollocks

    anyways according to de la hoya freddie roach would pick 5 or 6 combinations after studying the opponent and make his fighter keep repeating those combos rounds after rounds, pacquiao confirmed this when he was training for hatton he said he was getting bored and fed up of practicing the right hook.

    de la hoya also on that same article (please dont ask me for the link i cant find it) said that floyd sr was more 'advanced', in his training methods, which were about practicing long and advanced combinations and defensive techniques.

    according to chef (the poster) manny steward does something similar to roach with his fighter, he makes them practice the same punches over and over again but manny is more basic, unlike roach he likes sticking to the straight punches and occasional hooks.

    discuss....
     
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  2. Bad Dog

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    Roach uses PED'S which seem to work well.
     
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  3. billy boy balbo

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  4. Daveo

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    I think the three coach are excellent at what they teach.

    roach good at combos
    floyd sr defense genius
    manny steward the basics and makes you follow them.

    the problem with floyd sr is his stratagy is shite compared to the other two.
     
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  5. Relentless

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    from the training videos i've seen and the comments i read/heard ronnie shields is ALOT like roach, repetition with combinations

    also shields has a great conditioning coach cant remember his name right now) working in his gym, this guy is as good as ariza and others but just hasn't gotten the recognition.
     
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  6. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Roach is the best trainer in the world, only the most stupid would suggest Pac and co are on PEDS. The guy has a top strength and conditioner in Alex Ariza. Simplicity is the key, trainers try and go crazy with too many movements. Roach keeps it simple. I'm over there very soon.
     
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  7. williams7383

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    Billy Graham used to dress as Mr Blobby and let Wicky smash him round the ring
     
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  8. Mandanda

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    Yeah Manny Steward doesn't like hooks. He's a man of simplicity. I remember my amateur trainer always wanted straight shots. Hooks to Manny are risky shots to throw. But he knows there worth.

    Virgil Hunter Andre Ward's Trainer uses a plastic head when working with Ward in ring. I feel it's to more it more realistic and also develops accuracy among many other things.
    (1:22 mark)
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMlzA7ot7_4[/ame]


    Joel Diaz Tim Bradley's trainer uses a sticks with a boxing gloves on the end of them. It allows Bradley to work on slipping and rolling away from the jab and right hand as well as working on blocking and lateral movement and pivoting.
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/cb-P4g_Bxhk3UvoJHmfT_Q1u3VQkDadracI/timothy_bradley_training_routine/

    (If i become a trainer i will use both of the above)
     
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  9. zulander

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    hahahah

    true tho. fancy a world class fighter beating the hell out of a bloke in a fat suit and actually being a champion
     
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  10. brown bomber

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    Thanks for sharing, great thread.
     
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  11. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I liked the idea of Nazim Richardson using pipe lagging with Mosley.

    Too often people stick to the traditional methods without experimenting..... I'm sure each coach has their own nuances, but the Americans seem way ahead in this regard.

    Maybe it's because their fighters receive more exposure or are put in with better opponents that everyone receives more credit for what they do :think
     
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  12. Mandanda

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    I know Rob McCracken uses the Towel That Brother Naazim uses. I have started to see trainers in this country implement a bit of the new U.S schools tricks of trade but i still feel were a bit behind on the new type methods as mentioned.
     
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  13. Relentless

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    according to USS cunningham nazim like steward and roach is all about balance and simplicity, he tries not to change fighters at all instead work on weak areas such as head movement and form gameplans.

    nazim had the perfect gameplan for floyd but mosley just couldn't execute it.
     
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  14. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what was the plan v floyd?
     
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  15. Relentless

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    the plan was to throw combinations whether they land or not and pivot or move side to side, the plan was to win on workrate, body-head-body head hold or pivot

    naz was telling shane after the second round to NOT look for the knockout but to stick to the gameplan.
     
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