Arguello vs Mayweather at 130

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  1. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who wins and why ?
     
  2. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Good idea for a thread this. Don't know why it hasn't come up before.
     
  3. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Anyway, Mayweather, wide UD. Think Arguello/Fernandez with the embarassment levels turned up a few notches.

    Edit: I can even see Mayweather stopping him, actually. I don't think it would get any prettier over 15.
     
  4. teeto

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    I like Mayweather myself.
     
  5. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    People always find a way to pick Arguello in this one, but it's a horrible match-up for him, it really is.
     
  6. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll say Arguello stops Mayweather late over 15. Twelve round fight I might edge toward Mayweather.

    Arguello jumped up to lightweight to fight Fernandez in a 10 round fight. Arguello just wasn't as good at 135 and avoiding Arguello for 10 is exponentially easier than avoidong him for 15.
    Mayweather over Arguello is reasonable. Mayweather stopping Arguello is unrealistic.
     
  7. TommyV

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    I like Mayweather in this one aswell. And that's no disrespect to Arguello, great fighter but I think the speed advantage is significant. He was quick as hell at 130 of both hand and foot. He could bang aswell, and was a very good combination and body puncher.
     
  8. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    He'd fought at Lightweight on three previous occasions. Do you really think that made a difference?
     
  9. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What is your justification for such an assumption? I can see Mayweather outpointing Arguello due to styles and especially Mayweather's hand/foot speed at the weight. but Mayweather stopping an ATG at the weight in Arguello? I think Mayweather's power may be underated at the weight, but stop Arguello? That is laughable because there is no basis for conclusion like that. Arguello carried the power to hurt an opponent with one punch at the weight and Floyd would have to have the utmost respect for that power...if he did not...he would lose. Arguello was one of the best ever at the weight.
    Floyd carried a sizable weight advantage against Marquez in their fight and chose NOT to pursue a stoppage when he was in total control. Why would he choose to be brave against a puncher like Arguello at equal weights? Your statement makes no objective sense at all.
     
  10. itrymariti

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    I can understand what you're saying. Arguello had a granite chin and was tough as nails. I think Mayweather would dominate him, though, and when you dominate an opponent over a consistent period, they get dazed, they can't see the shots coming, then even good chins can be cracked (Corrales). I'm not saying a stoppage is particularly likely, but it's not something one can rule out.

    As for Marquez, that was a pathetic effort by Mayweather. But he was a different fighter at 130.
     
  11. Caponecartels

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    Over 12, I'd go with Mayweather.
    Over 15, I lean towards Arguello.
     
  12. dpw417

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    I can see Mayweather taking a decision over Arguello...but cannot even fathom Mayweather attempting to/or committing to stopping an ATG like Arguello. We agree on the outcome...but little else. I do not think Floyd would dominate Arguello at all. Arguello has the ability to severely hurt anyone he faced at that weight.
    I wouldn't say the effort against Marquez was 'pathetic'. Mayweather fought his fight against a smaller opponent, that's about all you can say about it. That's how Mayweather fights, and he is successful with it. His overall edge in size did play a part, but I thought Mayweather was very good in fighting a good technical opponent (albeit a small one)...and he was different at 130, but not to the extent of fully engaging with an Arguello.
     
  13. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Arguello by late tko. A young Camacho could be a little more of a handful
     
  14. birdhead

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    mayweather by decision. his boxing would give the stiff alexis fits. now, if alwxis landed one of those titanic rights...but we saw floyd take a huge one from shane and he survived.
     
  15. natonic

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    I flat out just think Arguello was at his best in the latter stages of his featherweight reign and at 130. No problem at all with the concept of Mayweather beating Arguello. Mayweather stopping Arguello is a bit much to get my head around.
    Arguello to me is comparable to Trinidad when he moved up (please bare with me). His deficiencies in footspeed were more pronounced at the higher weight where it could more easily be exploited.