Is the Super6 good for boxing?

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  1. Vano-Irons

    Vano-Irons Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I was having a discussion with someone a few weeks back and he claimed the Super6 was **** for boxing. He claimed that it is a failure as it hasn’t done anything for the sport and that tournaments don’t really work in boxing. It hasnt boosted ratings and, therefore, is a failure.

    Now I’m a big fan of the Super6. In my view the tournament has brought 6 of the best SMWs together to prove who is ultimately the best in the division. It also has left out a very good fighter (bute) whom the winner will logically face.

    To me that’s pretty good for boxing, no? I would go as far as to say that it would be a good idea to introduce it into other divisions. I mean a LWW, Featherweight and WW Super6 would be pretty intriguing to me.


    What do you guys think? I’m interested to hear from people who particularly don’t like the tournament as I would like to hear their reasons for it.

    By the way, the guy I was talking to is also desperate to see Haye vs. Harrison which might say a lot about his boxing knowledge.

    p.s. apologies if this has been posted before, cant be arsed to look through all the posts
     
  2. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if there was no S6

    there would have been champions doing Calzaghe/Ottke style match ups with the Tocker Pudwils and Evans Ashira

    Good thing the S6 brings 6 above good level fighters and make them fight each other.

    also: Branko Sobot, Veit, Jinemez and manfredo
     
  3. dwighttsharpe

    dwighttsharpe Boxing Addict Full Member

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  4. Shane W

    Shane W Former Heavyweight Full Member

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    The best are fighting EACH OTHER.........WTF more do people want??
     
  5. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    This is the bottom line. That anyone could actually think that the best fighters in a division fighting each other is a bad thing is an indictment of some boxing fans today.

    OP: next time you talk to this twat, ask him this:

    Who would he have preferred Arthur Abraham to fight in his first three fights at SMW rather than Jermaine Taylor, Andre Dirrell and Carl Froch?

    Who should Andre Ward have fought instead of Mikkel Kessler, Allan Green and Andre Dirrell?
     
  6. Vano-Irons

    Vano-Irons Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yeah that was pretty much my attitude as well.
    Its a shame people need to pick flaws in something thats obviously good for boxing
     
  7. Vano-Irons

    Vano-Irons Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    That was exactly what i said to the guy

    I mean just look at Carl Froch. His last fights have been against a Super6 participant in Taylor, then in the tournament he fought Dirrell, Kessler and has AA next.

    But the guy was adamant that it does nothing for boxing.
     
  8. Skilletscuz

    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    lol same here!

    and of course haterz gonna say that the whole S6 fails cuz Bute wasnt in it, for one reason or another.... whats new?

    This tournament is ridiculous cuz it pits a small cluster of elite fighters against each other over and over again. All the speculation and doubt predicated off of just one match is erased considering that they all have 1 degree of separation in every fight...
    The winner is truly validated as the top SMW over the others... no questions
     
  9. dwighttsharpe

    dwighttsharpe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is this attitude recent? What were his sentiments when the tourney was announced(before the fights started happening)?
     
  10. Fightfan of Mtl

    Fightfan of Mtl Bad Intentions Full Member

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    I voted no, because of the politics, not every real contender were invited ( Pavlik, Bute, Bika, Steiglitz....) thus, making the Super Six not quite as relevant as some people seems to think. I agree with the fondamentals of the best fighting the best to find the top dog. But until the tourney is over, it leaves nothing for Bute or Pavlik to fight against. I'm still sick about Bute loosing is time and forced to fight Brinkley, man, what a waste of time and sweat. Therefore, the S6 winner will still have to meet with the outsiders before claiming #1 spot. It should have been a wider range of boxers, let's say Super 10 or at least Super 8. But it's impossible, since Showtime and Sauerland brought this up, only their own fighters were invited. Still making a great tourney, but, some of us are left waiting for real things to happend for their guy.
     
  11. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Was this convo with Primadonna Kool by any chance?

    Never take that guys opinion seriously.
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    The Super 6 is one of the best things to happen in boxing in a very long time. Anyone who's against it should re-evaluate themselves as a boxing fan and probably find a new sport.
     
  13. Vano-Irons

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    :good spot on!

    But i was also discussing it with a pal.

    But the Haye-Harrison quote was taken from Primadonna Kool yes :lol:
     
  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who wanted Bika and Steiglitz in? I don't see them adding anything. Pavlik was more interested in his 160lb crown and would have said "no", anyway. Bute would have been great but he would have to replace a European fighter and, at that time, his stock was lower than Froch's, Kessler's and Abraham's. I'd love to have seen him replace Green but I understand why he didn't.

    Anyway, you can argue the Super6 hasn't been the success boxing wanted or expected, but it's still been good. Any time you get fighters of this calibre fighting each other, it's a good thing.
     
  15. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think the idea itself is great. It's funny though because even though the results have been great, it has an underwhelming feel. I think it would benefit a lot by all three match-ups being shown on the same night. The fight quality hasn't been good, apart from Froch/Kessler, which was very good. The rest have all been underwhelming fights, especially Ward/Green and Froch/Dirrell, in particular, which was disgraceful.

    I think Taylor leaving was a big problem as he was the name there. He brought the star factor which couldn't be replaced by any 168lber, except Calzaghe, Pavlik or Hopkins.