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Pro featherweight boxer vs untrained 250lbs 6'4 meathead, who wins?

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Brit Sillynanny said: ↑

These kind of threads are always a laugh.

99.5% of the time the little featherweight (that is essentially the size of a woman) gets his arms ripped off like a child tearing a butterfly apart.

It is one thing to be a boxing fan, it is another to imagine that a man the size of a little boy (albeit a boxer) is gonna trouble and dominate a substantively large man in an altercation. Even if the 6'4" 250 lb guy is blind he still swats the 5'6" featherweight into next week. I suppose if you take it to an extreme and find some perfect example of some out of shape gimp that posts on the internet all day, eating cookies and donuts, with diabetes, cardiovascular disease, various other health conditions, disabled, old man, etc., then anything is possible. Even so, 126 lbs of punching power is still basically that. Is the untrained large guy drunk or asleep when the fight begins?

I know athletes that won't even watch anything below heavyweight as they jokingly compare it to watching woman fight. These are the kind of fantasies that little guys post. If you are boxer you aren't throwing and landing fully committed punches without tape and gloves. Remove the tape and with no glove as a cushion you are no more prepared to land your bare hand to head and bone then anyone else - because you are not training that way. Since the opponent here is 100% heavier and nearly a foot taller than you, that boxer is gonna feel the need to hurt this MUCH larger likely angry person quickly to get some respect. The "boxer's break" is real easy to get punching a hard unforgiving uneven surface without a glove. Also, landing clean and hurting another 126 lb man is one thing. That same punch on a 250 lb man isn't gonna have anything close to the same result. It is gonna take multiple punches (call it about a dozen for some of these little dudes) to equal two or three from a large sized person. Anyone who has been in a fight with someone larger than themselves should know this - or that size can matter greatly.

Bare fist to bone isn't going to allow any small guy to blast out any large guy easily. The hand would never hold up to throwing it that hard (and landing it) repeatedly - and no big guy is going down from one hard punch from someone the size of a woman. Someone mentioned FMJ, I've seen him in the gym for over a decade now, even he isn't gonna drop ANY 300 lb man with a single un-gloved punch (or gloved either for that matter) and finish anyone in 10 seconds flat. That is absolute absurd hype, ridiculous, and impossible.

Getting ahead of the curve here - for similarly minded future threads (likely from dudes with an unforgiving and unfortunate runaway case of little man syndrome), the 5'6" 126 lb pro boxer/male athlete is almost never going to get the runway model, starlet, or other high end babe either. Money talks but there are only a handful of dudes this small pulling material dollars. Without the cash, there is simply no reason for quality women to want to end up with a man the same size as she is.

Reality check.
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what syndrome would you say you have?

di tullio, Jun 28, 2010

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I'll go with the featherweight

paloalto00, Jun 28, 2010

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Brit Sillynanny said: ↑

These kind of threads are always a laugh.

99.5% of the time the little featherweight (that is essentially the size of a woman) gets his arms ripped off like a child tearing a butterfly apart.

It is one thing to be a boxing fan, it is another to imagine that a man the size of a little boy (albeit a boxer) is gonna trouble and dominate a substantively large man in an altercation. Even if the 6'4" 250 lb guy is blind he still swats the 5'6" featherweight into next week. I suppose if you take it to an extreme and find some perfect example of some out of shape gimp that posts on the internet all day, eating cookies and donuts, with diabetes, cardiovascular disease, various other health conditions, disabled, old man, etc., then anything is possible. Even so, 126 lbs of punching power is still basically that. Is the untrained large guy drunk or asleep when the fight begins?

I know athletes that won't even watch anything below heavyweight as they jokingly compare it to watching woman fight. These are the kind of fantasies that little guys post. If you are boxer you aren't throwing and landing fully committed punches without tape and gloves. Remove the tape and with no glove as a cushion you are no more prepared to land your bare hand to head and bone then anyone else - because you are not training that way. Since the opponent here is 100% heavier and nearly a foot taller than you, that boxer is gonna feel the need to hurt this MUCH larger likely angry person quickly to get some respect. The "boxer's break" is real easy to get punching a hard unforgiving uneven surface without a glove. Also, landing clean and hurting another 126 lb man is one thing. That same punch on a 250 lb man isn't gonna have anything close to the same result. It is gonna take multiple punches (call it about a dozen for some of these little dudes) to equal two or three from a large sized person. Anyone who has been in a fight with someone larger than themselves should know this - or that size can matter greatly.

Bare fist to bone isn't going to allow any small guy to blast out any large guy easily. The hand would never hold up to throwing it that hard (and landing it) repeatedly - and no big guy is going down from one hard punch from someone the size of a woman. Someone mentioned FMJ, I've seen him in the gym for over a decade now, even he isn't gonna drop ANY 300 lb man with a single un-gloved punch (or gloved either for that matter) and finish anyone in 10 seconds flat. That is absolute absurd hype, ridiculous, and impossible.

Getting ahead of the curve here - for similarly minded future threads (likely from dudes with an unforgiving and unfortunate runaway case of little man syndrome), the 5'6" 126 lb pro boxer/male athlete is almost never going to get the runway model, starlet, or other high end babe either. Money talks but there are only a handful of dudes this small pulling material dollars. Without the cash, there is simply no reason for quality women to want to end up with a man the same size as she is.

Reality check.
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There is a lot of ****ed up **** going on in your above book. How the **** is it impossible for a small guy to pull "material dollars". You ever heard of David Spade? Any how, its also hard for stupid ****s to pull "material dollars". Your post is the type of fantasy that could only be written by someone that has never been in a real fight since their elementary school days. In real life when someone connects with a bare fist flesh gets busted with every punch. I have hands like a ladies and I broke some big boys eye socket with a punch. My hand felt great afterwords and I didn't know the guy was seriously hurt till I ran into his friends the next day. In a street fight **** gets unpredictable fast. One day your hand breaks on someones forehead. The next time out you bust someones head with a single punch. Sometimes you end up in jail and other times everyone laughs all night about how crazy the fight was. My advice is to stay out of situations where a fight becomes a possibility. There is no time for theory and speculation.

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Yo Brit. We live and operate and invest our lives into this thing called society and in this particular society we value things that are not brawn related. How many roided out guidos would it take to make a microchip?

You were doing alright until you stopped talking about fighting.

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The boxer would almost certainly win.

p.Townend, Jun 28, 2010

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VX.Nefarious said: ↑

well it depends, if the featherweight is taken down he will not be able to use his technique therefor he will get raped, otherwise the big guy will get a few stitches and a nice rest
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It all depends. The featherweight certainly has the potential to win against the 250lb guy, but that is a lot of size regardless and anything can happen in a street fight. If the 250lb guy was a wrestler for instance and for some reason was able to tie up the smaller guy's hands, he could probably take him down and ground and pound him fairly easily.
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These two guys sum it up. Also, what if the featherweight boxer isnt heavy handed or the meat head has a hard head?? So many instances can the featherweight be ****ed in this fight. I would put my money on the boxer but there is a 35-40 percent chance the guy with the size wins.

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well it all depends.. That 6'4, 250lber meathead has fists too, you know that.

igor_otsky, Jun 28, 2010

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john garfield said: ↑

I actually saw this played out at a gym in N.Y. in the early '70s. it was frequented by alotta wiseguys who watched sparring.

A three-time 122-pound Golden Gloves Champion and top-five pro contender was sparring, 'n a mountain-of-a-bookmaker (easily six-three, pushin' 300 pounds) -- grandstanding for his goombahs -- kept shoutin' cracks (I'd squash ya like bug -- blah blah blah)

The fighter, who was about five-six 'n could really crack, wasn't ruffled but his manager 'n trainer were gettin' more 'n more steamed. Finally, the red-faced manager told him to put a sock in it.

The wiseguy just got louder and 'n said what he'd do to the kid if he was in the ring. The manager jumped on it: "Why don't you put your money where you mouth is! The book shot back: "How 'bout for ten large?

"Make it 20," the manager said.

"DONE!"

It was arranged after the gym was closed. Three rounds with ten-ounce gloves, no headgear. The owner of the gym held the stake.

The wiseguy showed-up smokin' a cigar, stuffed like sausage into a stadium-sized track suit.

The Jr. feather, in trunks, was cool as ice in his corner.

The bell rang and the book thundered across the ring windmilling haymakers. The fighter slipped a right and dug a left hook -- WHUMP! -- into the book's gut. It sounded like Marciano hit the heavy bag.

The book did a belly flop into the canvas, and lay motionless. We thought he was dead. Half the guys there were on parole, so they ran like hell.
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Awesome story JG. Especially the end.

PetethePrince, Jun 29, 2010

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john garfield said: ↑

I actually saw this played out at a gym in N.Y. in the early '70s. it was frequented by alotta wiseguys who watched sparring.
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That was a nice read. Thanks for taking the time and posting.

madballster, Jun 29, 2010

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IvyLeague said: ↑

Size dont mean **** when it comes to getting down.
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Size is the most important thing in combat.

This is why we have weight classes.

This is really a silly thread. Putting in one guy with no training against another is pitiful.

Jazzo, Jun 29, 2010

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di tullio said: ↑

http://www.spike.com/episode/26435/st/2954097

here's a video if anyone wants to see that.
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:good:good

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Anyway, of course the heavier fighter can easily win in a street fight if he does not get punched.

Even rigging in the little man's favour does not guarantee anything.

Jazzo, Jun 29, 2010

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DLH beat Shaq

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