Knockout Kings 2000-1

I had the game for the ps1 for YEARS lol. But looking back on it, I was wondering if you guys sort of agree with the stats they have the legends?

I going to start with heavyweight first since it has over 32 boxers with stats, speed, cuts ete.

Most I think is spot on, but I disagree with a few things.

Eric "Butterbean" Esch, why they put the Bean in I never know. But here are his stats.


Record: 44-1-1 (34)
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 323 Lbs.
Reach: 78"
Power: 95
Speed: 70
Stamina: 70
Chin: 90
Heart: 100
Cuts: 99,
Fighting Style: Slugger
Stance: Right

Would lower his cuts, the Bean I recall got cut a lot I belive, Also he has the same power as Jack Dempsey or Joe Frazier, and I cant put Bean on that level of power.

Jack Dempsey

Record: 61-6-8 (50), 6 no- decisions
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 180 Lbs.
Reach: 77"
Power: 99, In the 2001 game, they lower his power to 96
Speed: 85, Up speed to 89 in 2001 game.
Stamina: 100
Chin: 100
Heart: 100
Cuts: 99
Fighting Style: Slugger
Stance: Right

Not bad over all. The only flaw is his stamina, I would not have giving it 100, He was pretty tired vs Willard, and of couse Tunney. I may have drop it to 87 or so.

Joe Frazier

Record: 32-4-1 (27)
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 205 Lbs.
Reach: 74"
Power: 99, Power lower to 95 in 2001.
Speed: 85
Stamina: 100
Chin: 95
Heart: 100
Cuts: 95
Fighting Style: Boxer
Stance: Right

Not sure on this, may have up his speed perhaps. He was able to track down Ali, but it looks all right to me.

 

Michael Grant

Record: 30-0 (21)
Height: 6'7"
Weight: 250 Lbs.
Reach: 86"
Power: 99
Speed: 85
Stamina: 99
Chin: 99
Heart: 99
Cuts: 99
Fighting Style: Boxer
Stance: Right

Chin and Heart are a first giving here, Though this was before Lewis ko him. Not sure I agree with these stats, though we have hindsight here.

Larry Holmes

Record: 66-6 (42)
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 209 Lbs.
Reach: 79"
Power: 88
Speed: 99
Stamina: 99
Chin: 100
Heart: 100
Cuts: 100
Fighting Style: Boxer
Stance: Right

Looks all right to me.

Evander Holyfield

Record: 35-3-1 (25)
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 214 Lbs.
Reach: 78"
Power: 95
Speed: 90
Stamina: 100
Chin: 100
Heart: 100
Cuts: 99
Fighting Style: Boxer
Stance: Right


Pwer is WAY too high, and Evander gas way too often for me to give him 100 in Stamina.

Ingemar Johansson

Record: 26-2 (17)
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 196 Lbs.
Reach: 73"
Power: 99
Speed: 85
Stamina: 99
Chin: 88
Heart: 99
Cuts: 85
Fighting Style: Slugger
Stance: Right

Agree with most here. Any one with 90 plus power would do real damage here. Not sure on Heart though.

Lennox Lewis

Record: 33-1-1 (27)
Height: 6'5"
Weight: 244 Lbs.
Reach: 84"
Power: 99
Speed: 88
Stamina: 99
Chin: 90
Heart: 99
Cuts: 99
Fighting Style: Boxer
Stance: Right

Lower stamina and chin imo.

 

Sonny Liston

Record: 50-4 (39)
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 218 Lbs.
Reach: 62"
Power: 100
Speed: 85
Stamina: 85
Chin: 99
Heart: 99
Cuts: 99
Fighting Style: Boxer
Stance: Right

Not sure here, I would lower heart, but thats mostly on the Ali thing.

Joe Louis

Record: 68-3 (54)
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 205 Lbs.
Reach: 76"
Power: 100
Speed: 85
Stamina: 100
Chin: 99
Heart: 100
Cuts: 99
Fighting Style: Boxer
Stance: Right

Chin I lower around to the 90 or mid 80's, He was knockdown way too much for him to have a near iron chin imo.

Rocky Marciano

Record: 49-0 (43)
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 185 Lbs.
Reac: 67"
Power: 100
Speed: 80
Stamina: 100
Chin: 100
Heart: 100
Cuts: 80
Fighting Style: Slugger
Stance: Right


Looks about right imo.

 

Archie Moore

Record: 183-24-10 (141)
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 195 Lbs.
Reach: 76"
Power: 100
Speed: 85
Stamina: 100
Chin: 95
Heart: 100
Cuts: 99
Fighting Style: Slugger
Stance: Right

Again I lower chin, He was drop way too often for a near iron chin imo.

Ken Norton

Record: 42-7-1 (33)
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 220 Lbs.
Reach: 80"
Power: 88
Speed: 85
Stamina: 99
Chin: 85
Heart: 100
Cuts: 99
Fighting Style: Slugger
Stance: Right

Looks about right, Marciano should thrash him with ease lol.

Floyd Patterson

Record: 55-8-1 (40)
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 195 Lbs.
Reach: 70"
Power: 95
Speed: 100
Stamina: 99
Chin: 85
Heart: 100
Cuts: 99
Fighting Style: Boxer
Stance: Right

I lower stamina just a little imo.


Earnie Shavers

Record: 72-13-1 (67)
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 211 Lbs.
Reach: 80"
Power: 100
Speed: 85
Stamina: 85
Chin: 85
Heart: 99
Cuts: 99
Fighting Style: Slugger
Stance: Right

Lower Heart imo.

 

David Tua

Record: 34-1 (29)
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 228 Lbs.
Reach: 71"
Power: 99
Speed: 85
Stamina: 85
Chin: 99
Heart: 99
Cuts: 99
Fighting Style: Slugger
Stance: Right

Power up to 100 imo. Heart lower, He didnt have that extra drive vs Lewis imo.

Muhammad Ali

Record: 56- 5 (37)
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 210 Lbs.
Reach: 82"
Power: 85
Speed: 100
Stamina: 100
Chin: 100
Heart: 100
Cuts: 100
Fighting Style: Boxer
Stance: Right

Power lower imo, and cuts down to 99 percent. Foster did put a nick on him, and I want to give other boxers that same chance lol.

 

Frank Bruno

Record: 40-5 (38)
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 235 Lbs.
Reach: 82"
Power: 99
Speed: 85
Stamina: 85
Chin: 70
Heart: 99
Cuts: 85
Fighting Style: Boxer
Stance: Right

Forgot Bruno here. Power a bit high imo,

 

A lot of them?? So whats wrong with Dempsey? Ali or Marciano?

I thought for the most part they were spot on.

 

Outside of say Tyson, or Foreman, you had most of the heavyweight elite right here.

I mean Jack Dempsey, Rocky Marciano, Ali and Joe Louis, who makes most people's top ten (Some cases top 5) right in 1 game.
Than you have Frazier, Patterson, Lewis and top contenders like Shavers and Tua just about rounds the heavyweights out nicely.
The only flaws are Bean and Grant imo. But Grant was view as the next big thing at the time, so that can slide. I would have replace Bean with Tunney or Tyson if one can get rights to the names.

I dont think no other game has that in a historic sense.

 

I loved the classic matchs up. Mostly in the 1950's arena were the bell can saved them(Cant be saved in the color arenas)

So just for a test, I wanted to see how many times Marciano can knock Ali down, so I drop Ali at the end of each round were the bell can saved them.

By round 13, Ali's head was dangling down lol.