Was Barrera prime when he first fought Pacquiao?

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  1. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Barrera wasn't in his prime. I mean damn Barrera was sloppy vs Kelly and couldn't come close of stopping way past his best days Tapia should tell you easily he wasn't the same fighter. His last prime was when he embarrass Hamed. Before facing Hamed, those were Barrera's prime days. If anybody that watch Barrera's career should know this.
     
  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    He definitely wasn't prime. He lacked the work rate he previously had in several fights leading up to that Pacquiao fight.

    That said, he was still a formidable foe and a genuine top five P4P talent when Pac beat him.
     
  3. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    I think imo the way he change his style to the brawler to a boxer in which he stay as a boxer shows imo he wasn't the same fighter. If Barrera was in his prime in which he goes on attack like a bull, i think he would have beat Pacquiao imo.
     
  4. causality

    causality Well-Known Member Full Member

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    IMO he was as prime as PAC is now.
     
  5. Dynamite Kid

    Dynamite Kid "I Must Break You" Full Member

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    He was exausted because it was a back & forth war. Maybe Barrera was considered a shell (considering at the point he went his last good run as a top fighter in the sport) but I don't recall Morales being considered a shell at all. Prior to that fight Morales had just taken Jesus Chavez WBC and Carlos Hernandez IBF. Morales had shown no signs of slippage at that point.
     
  6. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    No one said that..stop making **** up.
     
  7. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Relax darling. Grab a maxi-pad and go take a nap!
     
  8. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    i will thanks but take that **** back
     
  9. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    MAB was at his peak. looking at mab at their first fight against pac, marco didn't prepare well for that fight coz he thought pac was just a walk at the park.
     
  10. Teada

    Teada Son of the Sun Full Member

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    I don't think so. Barrera just lost to better fighter.

    Look at the Pacquiao's career after this fight. He is a monster.

    After destorying Barrera, Pacquiao has began to create his legend.

    Now he could possibly beat Floyd Mayweather in the match-up, which no one could have imagined 6 years ago.
     
  11. dits

    dits Active Member Full Member

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    Not prime but near enough. Still a top pound for pound fighter at the time.
     
  12. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    My problem wit the criticism that MAB is not prime is that it makes the whole concept of prime as being in one match. Anything immediately before and after that, somehow the fighter is not prime.

    This is a modern phenomena.

    Cotto is not prime because Marg took his soul.
    Hatton is not prime because he made the ring post his best friend.

    You don't really hear this much from classic fighters. SSR beat the crap out of LaMotta like 30 times and that is considered a great ATG achievement. Fast forward to post 1990, you beat up some one more than once and they are classified as almost dead.
     
  13. hooligan

    hooligan Millionaire Bum Full Member

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    how many fights mab won after the fight with pac?????
     
  14. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    9-3. Winning 6 in a row right after the Pac match - winning and defending his SFW belt.
     
  15. PH|LLA

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    Pac moved up in weight and beat a bigger Barrera down from pillar to post. Pac was still 23-24 at the time and kind of green. Barrera was a top p4p fighter and universally recognized king of Featherweights.