Should Bute have been counted out against Andrade?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by v2k987, Jul 3, 2010.

Page 4 of 13
  1. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2010
    Messages:
    10,667
    Likes Received:
    3


    erm erm what about taylor and chavez erm duh:silly
     
    spud1, Jul 3, 2010
    #46
  2. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2005
    Messages:
    19,216
    Likes Received:
    2
    I'm asking you to link to the rule as it applied to this fight. You have already been cited the applicable IBF rule that contradicts what you're saying.

    If you want to have a general discussion on the principle, then consider this question: why should a referee 'stop' a fight if there is no danger to the fighter in continuing? Isn't the purpose of a TKO to protect the fighter from danger?
     
    Cobbler, Jul 3, 2010
    #47
  3. Dece Bal

    Dece Bal Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2010
    Messages:
    3,550
    Likes Received:
    1
    No.

    This article explains everything in minute detail and answers all questions, in my view:

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=17659&more=1
     
    Dece Bal, Jul 3, 2010
    #48
  4. Kavgenik

    Kavgenik ESB Belt Holder Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2009
    Messages:
    296
    Likes Received:
    0
    I was responding to this....
     
    Kavgenik, Jul 3, 2010
    #49
  5. Maxime

    Maxime Sweet Science Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2004
    Messages:
    8,957
    Likes Received:
    109
    Not true. :lol:
     
    Maxime, Jul 3, 2010
    #50
  6. snakeface

    snakeface The Woodside Hurricane Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2010
    Messages:
    7,313
    Likes Received:
    0
    The ref was like 5........6........7....... GO.... go..... BACK ......TO YOUR CORNER..... 1.....2.........3
     
    snakeface, Jul 3, 2010
    #51
  7. Maxime

    Maxime Sweet Science Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2004
    Messages:
    8,957
    Likes Received:
    109
    WTF are you talking about?:huh
     
    Maxime, Jul 3, 2010
    #52
  8. Suga

    Suga Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2010
    Messages:
    3,731
    Likes Received:
    1
    I know man, Im just exagerating a bit. But he was like 5-6-7.. Go back to your corner, and then after 10 seconds he went back to 5 :lol:
     
    Suga, Jul 3, 2010
    #53
  9. Maxime

    Maxime Sweet Science Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2004
    Messages:
    8,957
    Likes Received:
    109

    The rules clearly say the count as to be suspended and can only be resumed when the fighter is back to the neutral corner.

    If I'm not mistaken the count was stopped at 7 and resumed at 7. He counted 7 twice so obviously that was wrong but he did not resume the count at 3 or 5.
     
    Maxime, Jul 3, 2010
    #54
  10. MJK

    MJK Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2009
    Messages:
    2,688
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ok I will repeat myself again. Since GBP, Andrade, Howard Grant (his trainer) and the IBF did nothing, did'nt protest officialy then it must be that this fight ended by the rules. I'm sure that Andrade as much more reasons than you to have a case here and he did'nt do it. So please all of you who feel defiled, aside from your obvious hate for the boxer, what is YOUR case?
     
    MJK, Jul 3, 2010
    #55
  11. Suga

    Suga Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2010
    Messages:
    3,731
    Likes Received:
    1
    There is no case, no one can change the results but fans know the truth. Look at the votes, most people know who really won that fight.
     
    Suga, Jul 3, 2010
    #56
  12. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2010
    Messages:
    16,869
    Likes Received:
    348
    :good

    BigBone pretty much always seems to know what he is writing, I agree with this.
    Bute got a gift there.

    I give him Credit for blasting that plodder out in next fight but He got the easy way out in their first fight. Everybody loses and when its time has come you have to lose not get away like Bute did.

    Lucian Bute has yet to get the Christening Of a Boxer, a KNOCK OUT LOSS.:deal
     
    MaliBua, Jul 3, 2010
    #57
  13. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2006
    Messages:
    39,848
    Likes Received:
    16
    There is also a video clip similar to this still-shot floating around somewhere. Andrade cost himself a world title. What I'd really like to know is why so many people act like the rematch never happened.
     
    booradley, Jul 3, 2010
    #58
  14. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2008
    Messages:
    16,998
    Likes Received:
    5
    bute lost that fight. hometown decisions are always nice but he will be exposed soon enough
     
    Auracle21, Jul 3, 2010
    #59
  15. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2006
    Messages:
    39,848
    Likes Received:
    16
    What I think is that you are a troll who likes to stir ****. The rematch more than cleared the matter up, so why ignore it?
     
    booradley, Jul 3, 2010
    #60
Page 4 of 13