Before some people go crazy this is a serious question. There's no denying Bute is a very good boxer but you look at his record and what elite super middleweights has he fought? I know because of the super six he wont fight anyone amazing for now but still, correct me if im wrong, yes he beat andrade twice and bika and props to him for being undefeated but there arnt any primtime names on his record. On a few sites such as ESB Bute is no.1 but surely the likes of Ward and Kessler should be higher ranked than him?
Because head-to-head, he looks like the best and because he's proven himself against every style except for slick, fast, athletic world class fighters, and there's only two of those around at SMW: Ward and Dirrell, and these two haven't faced any slick, fast, althletic world class fighters either, and certainly not someone who is also an accurate and effective a puncher like Bute. vis-a-vis the Andrade comparison, styles make fights. ...and Kessler is no longer the peak, prime Kessler he was when he beat Andrade.
U know, when u question his resume, the Canadians/Bute nuthuggers will use the SUPER6 as an excuse as to why Bute doesn't have an elite opponent. But that's just a BS of an excuse cuz bute won his paper title at the end of 07 and the S6 started at the end of 09 so he had about two years to make a meaningful fight yet he didnt. He was satisfied with taking on a bunch of hopeless mandatories in his backyward.. U look at all his opponents and they have ONE thing in common... Besides the fact that they were all journeyman level fighters, they were also crude, one dimensional brawlers who came straight at him and gave him nothing to think about.. BUte aint the #1, das a joke. As much as i dislike Ward's style, he's the #1 cuz he earned it by fighting the best...
Bute was even too scared to face Allan Green.. lolz.. He made some lowball offer knowing that green woudl decline.... Bute is afraid of Allan Green.
Probably because he is undefeated. You watch, once he gets beat he will get the same treatment guys like Lacy got.
yeah the undefeated aspect makes him higher rated but he hasnt fought the competition ward has. ward is the best in this division and im pretty sure that will be the case if they ever go head to head(ward vs bute)
Because his fans are 99% Canadians or Europeans, and as you know, those dudes know squat about boxing and are more interested in nationalism, like Germany. Bute hasn't fought anyone significant to label him as numeral uno!
I dont doubt that Bute is very talented but looking like a killer against C level competition and doing the same against the Elite opponents is a different story.. He had to face adversity just one time which was in the first andrade fight and he failed.. The ref saved him and gave him a gift but had it been on neutral ground, he would have lost by a TKO.. There's still a big question mark over his head imo and he's unproven.. For now, he's a paper champion..
When you say the best, it is based on what?? Their skill or their resume??? If it's skill : you should consider Bute as at least in your top 3 following that logic If it's resume : Who did Kessler and Allen Green beat to be claimed as the best? Froch?
Source please, or else, it's YOUR speculation I could tell from what I heard Allen Green chickened out two times? What makes your argument better than what I just said?
Of course, American fans know a lot more boxing.... That's a racist argument and hype jobs are all over the globe including America and south America P.S : I'm American, and I just love those objective and intelligent arguments, good job mate:good
I understand what your saying. The funny thing about ratings is that they are just down to interpretation and the names of who the fans recognise and on believed potential rather than real results. I wouldnt argue with either Bute or Ward being #1. Kessler was #1 but was beaten by Ward so Ward should be rated higher, but that is Wards only real major victory and will be for a while, whilst Bute has beaten Bika, Berrio & Andrade, so its how you decide who is better. One good win or 3 decent wins. As for the super 6, dont be fooled. Its a great competition but not all the fighters are quite what people would have you believe. The super 6 is well advertised making alot of people believe the fighters are better than they really are (thats not saying any are bad) ie Abraham is a former MW champ with now real SMW resume and who hasnt any real big wins, Green hasnt beaten anyone of real note in his career and had been beaten by Miranda, Dirrells only win of note is a DQ against the mentioned AA, Froch although limited has in fairness, beaten Pascal and Taylor. Kessler although a good fighter was an already exposed fighter by Calzaghe, and Ward in the super 6 will not at any time fight any undefeated fighter, in the competition and has to have his first 3 fights at home. Bute still has some fights that can mean something, theres Steiglitz who has a better resume than Green, Dirrell, SMW AA, and could be argued against Froch, theres also names that arent as accomplished at SMW but have recognised names (which fools people into believing they are big wins) like Hopkins and Pavlik, or he could try for a unification of sorts against Sartison and fight the undefeated contenders like Mendy, whos resume could be compared to that of Dirrell, so all is not lost by any means.