Who is physically stronger: UFC champ LESNAR or Strikeforce champ OVEREEM?

Dude, ITS NOT BODYBUILDING.

Conditioning, in this case, is the ability for the body to actually perform, not to look like it can.

If Lesnar and Overeem lock up and try to move each other, Lesnar is winning and it isn't even remotely close.

Overeem has the appearance of a physical freak, Lesnar is a physical freak, his raw numbers combined with the ability to just throw people around is unmatched in high level MMA.

 

And before it even gets uttered:

OVEREEM has not beaten a single good Heavyweight.

the closest thing he has done is get the **** beat out of him by Sergei. Mark hunt? The korean?

Overeem has fought a bunch of nobodies and lost to the one guy with any standing, but even that appears it was based on what Sergei had done in the past than what he is capable of now.

As a HW, Overeem has done ****ing nothing.

 

Brock beat Frank Mir!!!!! He is the greatest, mother****ers!!!!! Yea!! eat it bitches!!!!

 

And Fedor and Overeem beat Brett Rogers.

At least Brock was trying to fight somebody credible.

 

Hey Einstein. Guess what muscles mean. They mean strength! Wow isnt that a surprise. And incase you didnt notice Overeem has been performing VERY well since he moved up to heavy but because he's not a wrestler you missed his ****.

 

Yeah Herring Mir Couture some real heavyweight beasts there.

 

Performing very well? Against who? Let's take a look.

Rogers -
Fujita -
James Thompson - big
Tony Sylvester - huge
Mirko's testicles - meh
Mark Hunt - look at his career as of late
Lee Tae Hyun - Oh, really?
Sergei - BEAT THE ****ING **** OUT OF OVEREEM

So a bunch of no hopers, a NC against CroCops balls, and an absolute one sided asskicking by Sergei.

Yea, he is great.


As for strength, he is nowhere near Lesnar, bodybuilding muscles are not the same as powerlifting muscles or wrestling muscles; put those two in a clinch and Overeem is getting thrown.

 

A million times better than Sam's Tires favorite son Brett Rogers.

Mir and Couture are a world apart from Roger's, even Herring would beat him convincingly.

 

It's funny that a simple poll like this accurately illustrates the distinction in class, in terms of competence, concerning this forum's frequent posters.

 

Ah yes of course powerlifting and wrestling muscles. Must have missed that 101. Thanks for the esoteric information. The fact that Brock was on hormones for the best part of his youth clearly doesnt matter in your eyes.

As for the rest of your post .. well what can i say. I think you've beaten your regular standard as this one is as close to worthless than your normal "wrastling" posts.

You rubbish Overeems competition but beat the drum for a guy who is 5 - 1 against some of the most average heavys in the world. Mir? Couture? Current version of Herring? Do we even need to go there? I mean seriously whats the difference between Rogers and Carwin? Ooo i know the UFC brand!! Plus Carwins a wrestler so he MUST be good right? Now thats

 

Hmm, NOg (2), Arvloski, Cro Cop, Sylvia, Randlemen, etc, etc. Fedor beat plenty of good fighters. ****, just look at how the UFC marketed Sylvia, and Nog! People can't have it both ways.
Who did Carwin ever really beat either? Lesnar beat Herrig, OLD Couture, Mir, and he got *lucky* against Carwin. He was lucky Carwin has no stamina what so ever, and lucky the ref let it last when anyone else would of stopped it. Yeah, he does got heart, and balls (I give him props), but your going to tell me Fedor doesn't fight anybody whenever he beat like 7 people that were UFC champs. Overeem you can say whatever really cuz he hasn't fought that much competition.

 

Overroid could pump iron and eat roids from now until eternity and Brock would still have more functional strength in his pinky than he'll ever have. Smaller wrestlers like Coleman and Kerr are much stronger than ALaistair as well. Its not putting him down, its just not his style.

 

I'd guess Lesner.

 

Interesting argument. You are aware that Coleman and Kerr used to take hormones like they were skittles. Its a proven FACT that Brock Kerr and Coleman were all on gear. No one has ANY proof that Overeem is on gear apart from his growth from light heavy to heavy. Which although miraculous for plenty of guys who have never worked out a day in their life is perfectly plausible for a guy who is 6ft 5 and approaching muscle maturity in his 30's.

Now contrary to the bull**** written on here muscles mean STRENGTH. Thats a FACT. Wether the muscle atrophy is achieved though powerlifting bodybuilding or whatever means muscles are developed through resistence. And resistence ultimately creates strength. We can wax philosophically all we want but theres no way to empirically measure either guys strength on the basis of their looks. Although Overeem certainly boasts the more dense muscle than Brock which is an indication that he may be stronger. But its all moot. As for functional strength thats another story.