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Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by robpalmer135, Jul 5, 2010.


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  1. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I don't see the submissions and ground game as skill. Its just over powering your opponent and putting them into a position that hurts and they tap or you sit on top of them a repeatedly punch them.

    I don't mean the biggest man I mean the strongest man. the strongest and best ahtlete will always win. This is not the case in boxing. You need to be smart as a boxer.
     
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  2. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    Rob there is a lot of skill involved with the "ground game" (though I find it boring)
     
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  3. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    but if the bigger guy gets into a good position its all over??
     
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  4. LHL

    LHL Captain Freedom Full Member

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    Rob if you haven't seen a lot of MMA its best not to comment like this. It all depends on the fighters Antonio Nogueira has a reputation for taking a beating from people in his guard then pulling off submissions from the bottom. Fedor recently got beat from a BJJ expert off his back.

    Personally i watch MMA for the ground game, i still enjoy the stand up but when you have two experienced ground fighters the transitions between them can be very entertaining. The Thompson vs Healy fight on strikeforce recently was a very good ground fight.
     
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  5. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    it wasnt a comment it was a question. ive maybe seen 30-40 MMA fights and the bigger guy seems to always win unless they do something stupid (Lesner vs Mir)
     
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  6. mughalmirza786

    mughalmirza786 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fedor vs Hong man Choi and vs randleman. The really good guys are all about skills and leverage to make a guy tap or choke him.
     
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  7. WATERBOY

    WATERBOY I Worship Steven Tucker Full Member

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    this is 1 of the dumbest things iv read bjj is joint manipulation iv been training for about 10 months and i am very strong and fast do a lot of strenght work i have since i was 14 now i do a lot of cardio aswell and my trainer is no where near as strong as me but his skill level is so much more than mine that he hardly brakes a sweat when we roll (sparr) and theres a few big rugby players who cum who i can tap and they out weigh me by 3 or 4 stone bjj is a highly skilled sport!
     
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  8. LHL

    LHL Captain Freedom Full Member

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    Fair enough if it was a question, It's not an uncommon thing to happen BJJ fighters would be the most common people to do it i would say.
     
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  9. WATERBOY

    WATERBOY I Worship Steven Tucker Full Member

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    rob check out bob sapp vs nog!
     
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  10. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    why is it dumb? everytime i watch MMA the big guy wins. i am opnly saying what i see. Is Lesner more skilled that Mir, Carwin and Cotoure.........no even i can see that. But hes beating them all as he is a beast.
     
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  11. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

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    Fedor is not big.

    Most of his opponents dwarf him
     
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  12. WATERBOY

    WATERBOY I Worship Steven Tucker Full Member

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    heres some fights that show skill!
    1 gsp vs matt hughes 2
    2 gsp vs thaigo alves
    3 anderson silva vs rich franklin 1 and 2
    4 anderson silva vs forrest griffin
    5 fedor vs cro cop
    6 bj penn vs sean sherk
    7 mauricio rua vs rampage jackson
    8 lyoto machida va mauricio rua 1
    9 jose also vs urijah faber
    10 gsp vs jon fitch
     
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  13. WATERBOY

    WATERBOY I Worship Steven Tucker Full Member

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    lesnar is 1 of americas best ever college wrestlers his record was 106-5 he was division 1 champ mirr is a good not great bjj player hes very overrated, cotoure was just to small and old! carwin is a less skilled version of brock with heavy hands carwin was division 2 champ!
    so yes lesnar is skilled just in areas you dont understand!
     
    WATERBOY, Jul 5, 2010
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  14. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    UFC is absolute tripe, there is nothing positive to say about it IMO.
     
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  15. GazOC

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    BJ Penn.
     
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