Brock Lesnar proved a few things tonight...

Brock is still evolving as a Mixed Martial Artist. He is a wrestler with improving striking and jits. The scary thing is he will only get more experience, more skilled, better technically and better strategically.

In the first round he got clocked and made the mistake of backing up too quick. He was hurt but running away was the wrong defensive/survival method. His corner told him this as soon as he got back to the corner.

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The above gif shows glaring flaws in his game and shows how good Carwins stand up is. Carwin parrys the right hand and counters with hard shots. He can only throw these hard shots because he is in position. Brock threw the right hand, put himself offbalance and squared up for a flush uppercut. He needs to work on these sort of mistakes. Machida got himself ko'd for throwing himself forward like that.

Brock is a machine and he will only get better. The competition he has can see him go down as the greatest of all time. Velasquez then JDS then god knows who.

 

Do you actually believe this crap you write? You talk about Brock getting better as some flat defacto standard. What are you basing this on exactly? And how is he going to surpass Fedor's record who is already the GOAT and likely to remain so. Who exactly are the equivalents of CC Nog etc that Brock is going to face!?!?

 

Scur, everyone is beginning to think you are a ***** but I will humour you with a response.

Brock has already improved defensively in jits from Mir I to II. He has been in the sport a second and openly admits to working on his striking and jits, so yes I expect he can and most likely will improve in these areas. He has been in the game 3 years and 6 fights. Odds are in my favour that he can improve.

If you actually read what I right and not spend your time being a dick then you'll see I said he CAN become the GOAT NOT he IS the GOAT.

If he beats the heavies on offer people will begin to consider him the GOAT. Wins over Velasquez and JDS alone would begin to get people saying it.

 

Lesnars a big boy but he could move. he has good coordination for a guy his size. however, his weak point is his stand up. it showed he's also pretty strong mentally once he ate a few shots. he seemed jittery and afraid to get hit but once he was hit repeatedly enough, he seemed to have though "this aint as bad as a i thought, im still alive" and weathered the storm pretty well. At this point I would favor Overeem over him due the experience gap but if he stays dedicated, Brock will only get better and will be harder to beat. Its only natural for him to progress with him having such little bit of experience. He will learn how to use his size, strength better as he fights more often. He will learn what he can and cannot get away with, etc. With that said, I'd say lets make JDS vs Lesnar. Its an interesting match-up; the wrestler vs the striker. I'd favor Brock at this point, though.

 

I'm a huge Lesnar supporter.. but Cain will come out on top.
Bet the farm on it.

Everyone thinks Brock has better wrestling... maybe 10 years ago in the ncaa.. but not in mma.
Cain has a good chin.. great wrestling.. outstanding cardio.. and far better standup than Brock.
Basically he is Carwin with less power.. but can go 5 rounds no problem.

Cain is the real HW champ. No one would beat him today. Not Lesnar.. not Fedor.

 

Who the **** ever said anything about surpassing Fedor's legacy?

The issue is the present, and in the present Brock is getting better and better with each fight.

What do you think the odds before the fight on Brock hitting a perfect arm triangle, with a textbook set up?

Some fighter starts to look very good, and you get all emotional about "protecting Fedor's legacy" because so much of your pathetic existence is tied up in the myth of invincibility. Now that he lost clearly your world is falling apart, and anybody who ever does anything positive is a threat to making you cry even more, you pathetic little emotional girl.

 

Lol, this **** is funny. Brock looks like ****, gets mauled the first round. Gets a shitty ass takedown which looked like a football tackle off a shitty shoot, then gets a choke that wasn't defended and you guys are all over his balls. Gobble ****ing gobble mother****ers.

Brock Lesnar showed me he is likely going to lose to Cain next.

Beebs, that was an undefended arm triangle. The execution of it was superb yes, but it may as well have been against a rag doll, Carwin was basically a ragdoll on the ground man. Watch it again and you tell me where Carwin tried to even prevent Brock from going full mount. He was defenseless, Brock could have triangle choked him from the top and Carwin wouldn't have prevented it or tried to improve position.

 

Ah yes of course Brock CAN become the GOAT. Its ok il keep my ***** badge. :thumbsup

 

Clearly my cognitive skills are escaping me.

That implys he is better than Fedor. Fedor 31-2 vs Brocks current 5 - 1. But wins over JDS and Cain propel Brock over Fedor right? Now Fedor has wins over ATG's like CC and Big Nog amonst a host of former UFC champs. Who are the equivalents currently of that status? JDS, Cain? Are you shitting me?

Now contrary to the pre-menstrual bollocks you just wrote im not enamoured by Fedor's invcibility. Unlike you i never thought Fedor was invincible. Whats very apparent here is Fedor has an unparalled record in terms of depth as well as victorys. Brock isnt even remotely close to that. Who exactly is Brock going to fight thats going to enable him to surpass Fedor's legacy? On the basis of his current performance which saw him get beat from pillar to post in the first round until he pulled out an excellent sub where is this marvelous improvement that you speak of that will enable him to rival Fedor let alone surpass him?

Only in this sport do we see guys who are 5 - 1 being even mentioned as the GOAT. Your posts are the equiavlent of the joyboy trolls on Sherdog. I suggest you post there as you dont seem to be adding to much value on ESB lately.

 

Personally i was very impressed with the sub considering Brocks inexperience. But the facts remain is he IS inexperienced and he was getting beat from pillar to post, was fortunate not to get stopped, and subbed a guy who blew his load going hard for the KO. He doesnt have the record or the skills nor the ledger to even begin to moot any greatness of ANY kind.

 

Boom. Those guys come from established grappling disciplines with far more depth than "wrastling". But the Brock supporters would have you believe otherwise on the basis of Brocks athleticism muscles and size which are a sure fire way to measure greatness and potential.

 

Lol...and here we go with this bull****, say what you want but make sure to include that he's the champion, won his fight, and made Carwin tap, and that your boy isn't the champion of any promotion, lost his last fight, and tapped like a ***** within 2 minutes of the first round. If Fedor can't handle these UFC rejects in Strikeforce, obviously his best days are behind him, he wants nothing to do with Lesnar.