Why doesn't Haye get the credit he deserves for beating Valuev for a Title?

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  1. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    I like most English fans are not easliy fooled. I will check out your thread. I agree that the chagaev fight was higly controversial. As for the Haye fight he was just way too good, even for a giant of Valuevs stature.
     
  2. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    Well, just as an FYI I have given credit to Haye for his win over Valuev, but the WBA is still rubbish, and it is the worst belt of the 4.
     
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    Chagaev beat Valuev and was the rightful WBA title holder. Wlad beat Chagaev and should be the rightful WBA title holder. Haye ducked Wlad TWICE now. There is no denying this. Haye is not a champion. He holds a tainted belt. Nothing more.
     
  4. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    And what do you base that on? :roll:
     
  5. baldbull

    baldbull Active Member Full Member

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    Plenty of people have thought Valuev was **** a long time before Haye stepped in the ring with him. Valuev and Haye both suck, and who would want to see a rematch of that garbage. ?
     
  6. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    :lol:

    Haye
    Jones
    Shumenov
    Sturm
    Scnchenko
    Khan
    Uchiyama
    Kameda

    Edit- Also, "Super" and "Regular" titles as well.
     
  7. Slacker

    Slacker Big & Slow Full Member

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    Maybe because Haye lost the majority of the rounds, ran like ***** and somehow still won the decision?

    Sure, yeah.. he wobbled him with a punch in the 12th, but thats not enough to win a championship...even if it is the least respected title of the four that matter.

    Evander should have won the decision against Valuev. He deserved it (barely), but was shafted.

    Haye didn't deserve it, but was gifted it.

    Plus, he completely ran his mouth and hyped himself to bypass a lot of guys who were more deserving of the shot at the title. That was the fault of the WBA. Shame on them.

    Also, he completely talked his way into the Klit fights, which he absolutely bitched out of...at least twice.

    Haye is a fake, ***** ass chump who has no business calling himself the Heavyweight Champion.

    Everyone knows that Wlad will tax that ass and Haye is ducking him shamelessly. Its a joke, except its not funny.

    Its shitty for boxing that we don't have a unified champ because of bull**** like David Haye and Don King.
     
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    Slacker Big & Slow Full Member

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  10. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    Is there any way I can delete this post from my thread? I don't like it and don't want it here.


    Let me tell you something slacker, you have a bad attitude I don't have to aknowledge your claims.
     
  11. -Diablo-

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    Apart from maybe Shumenov, and Kameda, those other fighters aint worth a damn.
     
  12. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Valuev got shafted in a quasi British queen conspiracy overthrowing Valuev for his rightly championship throne. Total utter bull****... the ****ing Germans sold him out. After all he did for them... put them on the God damn globe.
     
  13. Spman20999

    Spman20999 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You don't want to acknowledge his claims because you and every other Haye supporter are flat out delusional and intend to keep it that way. Haye showed a lot of promise as a Heavy Weight, but he has done nothing to fulfill this promise as of yet. In fact, so far he has been downright embarrassing.

    Why doesn't he get much credit for the Valuev win? Because the guy has been beaten twice and is far too cumbersome to deal with any mildly dexterous boxer... Valuev looks like a threat on paper, but is supported solely by smoke and mirrors.

    Find another fighter to support. Hopefully someone that is actually willing to fight.
     
  14. Captain Murphy

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    Valuev sucks!!!!
     
  15. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    :lol: Bitter that you were so impressed by a Russian, Captain America?