Decade v Decade Semi 1 - 1890s vs 1990s

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  1. Flea Man

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    I'm a massive admirer of Dixon. He will be used to awkward styles but Naz was a freak in his prime. I reckon Dixon would overcome some hairy moments to outpoint Hamed.

    Fitz vs Roy is super intriguing. Roy was basically impossible to hit, yet Fitz was highly regarded by his peers as the craftiest fighter of his time, deceptively fast, accurate, and most importantly, he had impeccable timing. That is vital in anyones chances on taking on a peak Jones, I'd personally favour Jones to bamboozle Fitz to a decision win over 12, Fitz's face awash with claret. It would require a punch-perfect performance from Roy, but I confident he could produce one.

    Lewis would decimate Jackson early, everything is against Jackson in this one.

    One thing everyone must take into account: the old timers will not be able to throw as many punches as their modern counterparts and may lack so-called refinement, but their punches would have a feeling to them that might dissuade the supposedly more 'advanced' opponent from doing their thing. There are many things that make these fighters harder to judge than what first meets the eye which is 'IMO the old fighters are not aesthetically pleasing: they will get destroyed' (funnily enough, a viewpoint I used to subscribe to) but some of these match-ups are tight.

    I reckon Trinidad would take a few rounds to get him timing down against 'Nonpareil' but would take him out in ten. Mind you, I'm going by my recollections of accounts leading up to and including the Fitz fight, which was the modern day junior middle limit and may well not be Dempsey at his best.
     
  2. teeto

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    Nah i know mate.

    On a separate note i'm hurt if you thought i was hating on Tito Trinidad, look at my posting name son. My dog is called Tito ffs
     
  3. Flea Man

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    Unecessary off the topic stoned post
     
  4. teeto

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    Fleaman, your avatar, i was scared of that **** when i was a kid.
     
  5. McGrain

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    :lol:
     
  6. teeto

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    I read it.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Can you imagine how much fun Saad vs Fitz would be??? For the three or four rounds it lasted anyway.

    And Tito, it was your avi that,ahem,'inspired' it :lol:
     
  8. teeto

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    :lol: i see.
     
  9. janitor

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    Jackson is definitely getting sold short here.

    He was something of a phenomenon in his prime, and a verry complete fighter physicaly, techinicaly and mentaly. Perhaps the model of the perfect heavyweight.

    I dont think there should be any assumption that Lewis would have an easy time with him.
     
  10. Swarmer

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    :lol: you're a real hoot, my friend
     
  11. Flea Man

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    The rules would probably dictate how competitive it could possibly be.

    But I can't see an alien ruleset doing much to prevent say, the Lewis that beat Grant, from landing some humongous blows on a fighter who was undoubtedly brilliant (supposedly the best 'scientist' in the World at that time, by none other than Fitz) but is also massively undersized here, going in with arguably one of the top five Heavyweights of all time.

    Shocking matchup, unless you're looking to favour the older fighter IMO. I'm unbiased either way, but surely most would agree that Lennox is a bridge too far for any Heavy of the Sullivan-to-Jeffries era, and I wouldn't feel happy picking any Heavy on their best day against Lennox on his until we get to Louis, and yes Im including Langford, Dempsey, Tunney and Jack Johnson.

    Lennox vs Louis could play out in so many ways it's neither not worth going into nor productive to the thread.
     
  12. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    I will take Lewis over Jackson by tko8 in a tough fight.
    Jones will win a dec against Fitz. Fitz nevers lands the KO punch Jones just 2 fast.
    I will take Hopkins over Ryan in a close fight.
    I will take Trinidad to KO Dempsey in the 5th.
    Whitaker on Points, the crafty southpaw, and defensive wiz to much here.
    I will take Dixon over Hamed, by Dec.
    And last in a pick em fight I will go with Veeraphol Sahaprom by Dec.

    1990's go 6-1 for me.
     
  13. janitor

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  14. Flea Man

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    These are good points. I will say that I don't think Lewis would have an 'easy' night with any of them, I do think he'd beat Jackson without too much of a struggle though.
     
  15. janitor

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    Jackson is sort of the monster in the forest.

    He might have been like a hybrid of Joe Louis and Gene Tunney for all we know.

    A few contemporary descriptions hint at something like that.