Tommy Carruthers vs. prime Tank Abbott, No Rules Fight, anything goes, who wins?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Canibus81, Jul 6, 2010.


  1. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Street fighting obviously holds some unknowns but I honestly wouldn't bet on those unknowns versus a trained fighter.

    Fighters try to mimic real situations but the only thing that can get them that knowledge is experience. Experience of a full blown punch, hurt wrist, swollen eyes, being hurt, getting white flashes etc
     
  2. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A punch is a punch, a kick is a kick, why do I have to experience getting punched or kicked in my face if I have the nessacary skills to stop someone from doing so. fighting is to hit and not be hit. If you can't hit the target, I don't care how powerful you are. Like Bruce says Boards don't hit back, so a heavybag and breaking breaks don't hit back, an actual opponent does. You have to be able to find openings and stop your moving target from getting in hits. And if your techinques are limited, your gonna be getting hit a lot.
     
  3. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    This is wishful thinking at its finest. Any trained athlete will resign themself to the inevitability to being hit and hurt. Otherwise as soon as it happens, the lack of experience of being in that situation will see you lose that fight almost certainly and incredibly quickly.

    If Floyd gets hit then everyone is.
     
  4. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That was my point.....for those who are skilled in any art form....training can only keep the technique sharp.... But being "Sharp" with technique doens't always equate to being sharp in an actual fight. Being able to have split second timing, reflexes and the ability to instincually fight can only be harnest and honed when sparring or competiting in actual fights. No one should think that Fighting and then learning a form of fighting will see that as an equation for a successful fighting career. That is completely false.

    Of course knowing, learning, developing and perfecting ones craft is the best foundation for a successful fighitn career. I wish Tommy would fight in MMA and I think he'd be successful if he deceided to do so....but with that said he'd have to adapt his own fighting technique and implement other successful techniques in order to be competitive. He couldn't just come in to the MMA realm with just his JKD. Just like James Toney can't just come in to the UFC facing a guy like Randy with just his elite level boxing skills.
     
  5. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That doesn't prove anything, those are opinions, not facts. But it does prove how uniformed a lot of people are, including you.
     
  6. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd is boxer not a fighter. And I never said anyone can't get hit but why get hit if you don't have to. If I can land 10 shots to your 1, the odds are more in my favorite 90% of the time.
     
  7. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Real JKD is MMA but it isn't made for the ring at all.(cause of the rules) You take all the rules out though and someone challenged him, I guaretee you he would. My Sifu has a big erge to do it whenever I get fully developed to run his school, mostly likely he will. He's already told me that he doesn't think much of some the guys you talk about as great fighters, even though he respects their skills. And truth be told, I wouldn't bet a dime on none of the fighters that you guys talk about all the time over him.
     
  8. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    It's an example however Floyd solely has to concentrated on punches and gets hit so what do you think the odds become when we allow any form of fighting. It's simple maths.

    It's not about getting hit if you don't have to. It's a man with 2 arms, 2 legs, skills and a will to win just like you.
     
  9. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canibus, stop chewing on men's foreskins. didnt your mama tell you its bad for ya. JKD is bull ****. it is possible for an individual that works hard and has will and genetic potential to enter a more or less crappy style and still be a good fighter. that would be a case of someone overcoming the style. unfortunately they have to work extremely hard to do so. there are better styles, i.e. realistic and based on principles that fit the real world, and there are style that are unrealistic. as a rule the proof is in the pudding, and JKD, is a rather shitty pudding. I never said Tank was good, but he was effective within certain parameters, he did something Lee and the other JKD pantywaists, like Canbibus the foreskin chewer, and that is fight. never known an individual that talked **** the way CaniPUS does to be worth ****. he knows if anyone can fight or not and challenges people who would whip his ass to go to New York. What is the name of the gay bar again, foreskin chomper?
     
  10. don owens

    don owens Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And CaniPUS, if your Gayfu has to wait until you are fully developed before he goes into MMA and shows us all how it is done he has given himself a lot of time to avoid having to prove it huh?
     
  11. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    Tank would kill him!!
     
  12. bigG

    bigG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    didnt gene lebell say about bruce lee when asked who would win a fight between them, that bruce, a close personal friend remember, was a tremendously gifted athlete and had incredible skills...but at the end of the day, he weighs ten stone and i WILL catch him......
     
  13. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    JKD can be adjusted to fall within the rules of MMA. Of course JKD is a fighting style that is based on hitting key areas, vunerable areas like joints, pressure points and unprotected vital organs to be as efficent as possibly in controling a violent situation.

    But if an Expert wanted to fight in MMA and utilize the best JKD has to offer in a Sactioned MMA fight they could. Why they don't I have no idea....one exper in Eric P. did and he didn't pretty well. But others who have followed in the foot steps of Eric havn't had nearly the same success.

    I'd be interested in seeing JKD on the map like it should be....but the proof would have to be validated by performance in actual competition where seeing would be believing.
     
  14. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh trust me you definetly will. Me and My instructor has already had talks about doing it. Infact he was suppose to do it back than around the time frank shamrock was competing in UFC. Obstacles in your life are ***** and sometimes that puts a halt to things. It's definetly gonna happen eventully.
     
  15. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Honestly go down to an MMA gym. Sign a waver and have a NHB fight with an experienced MMA fighter. See how you get on.

    Tape it please. :D