How does Lesnar Velasquez play out ???

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  1. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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  2. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    who really knowz

    BUT

    on speculation alone i would say that brockz danger is GASSING out against cain without damaging him enough first. with that said i think brock has shown some ability to fight under control and trying to pace himself.

    so my pick would be brock to destroy cain on the ground or brock gassing and cain taking a huffing puffing brock out with thousandz of strikez that mostly miss but in the end do their job
     
  3. si_19

    si_19 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Cain can keep it standing then I think he can Knock Brock out
     
  4. Delroc

    Delroc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cain is the better fighter but its not gonna help him fight night, Brock is gonna donkey kong the **** outta poor boy.
     
  5. Pacotez

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    :deal
     
  6. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Brocks not gonna stay explosive and monstrous through out a fight. I think he's shown that up to 3 rounds he has decent stamina, can fight under control and pace himself. Rds 4 and 5, I wonder but who can get to Rds 4 and 5?!
     
  7. bachatu

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    I've rewatched a few of Cain's fights and he is very good on his feet and getting take downs and into position to control the bigger man. His activity is good but is only of note when he has the position to mount and control the guys on the ground, thats when he unleashes tons of punches (mostly arm). however, Brock is a much bigger and stronger guy than anyone's he faced, not to mention he holds better wrestling credentials, this will pose BIG problems for Cain, unless he is that good and fast to where he can use his speed to position himself and punch/hurt Brock with something and somehow get him to the ground. I see it as an uphill climb for Cain... NO one questions his heart and determination but there's a reason why there are weight classes, unfortunately for him, super heavies and heavies are all considered one
     
  8. Nuke

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    Lesnar is gonna grab him by the ankles and smash him off the canvas until he dies!!
     
  9. Nuke

    Nuke Full Length Member Full Member

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    Cain isn't as good as people think either. We are gonna find out soon enough that the UFC HW division is all hype except for maybe JDS. You sheep are easy to convince, as long as Dana says it, its true to you.
     
  10. Reuben

    Reuben L.A.M.B Full Member

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    If Cain can take the fight Late he could stop Brock. If Brock could get the takedown early he could stop Cain.

    Just depends who is the better wresteler.
     
  11. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Some decent comebacks but ultimatley i agree with this post .

    I think Velasquez should explode on Brock from the 1st minute until he knocks him out , with stand up alone , i think if Cain swarms him with his freakish output and overall superior stand up there is a good chance he can overwhelm Lesnar , the one thing Velasquez must not be worried about is being taken down in this fight , if Cain looks to finish Lesnar on the feet he cannot be worried about getting taken down , and to date Velasquez will be the best HW wrestler he'd of faced (i consider Couture now to be a 205'er) , therefore there is always that chance Velasquez will eventually get up without being G&P ' ed out , unlike the rest of them .

    I think if Velasquez uses sprawl and brawl for the first 2 rounds the fight is over , thats ofcourse if he hasnt been finished , id be looking for a performance a little similar to Edgar vs Penn , but with a lot more emphasis on actually taking out Lesnar as oppose to just scoring shots used by Frankie , and i think its a realistic game plan .

    As for Lesnar the game plan will be simple , its the same game plan every fight , get a hold of Velasquez drag him to the ground and look for dominant positions to G&P him out , now lets face it Velasquez's wrestling is solid , but it aint in Lesnar's league , and seeing Lesnar with his hand raised in the 1st round and seeing Velasquez out cold on the ground ist all together un realistic either ..............

    Ive got Cain by TKO rnd 2 , im leaning towards a gassed Lesnar taking shots on his back and getting stopped !!!!!
     
  12. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    These UFC hate posts really do make me laugh , in any division in the world you cannot be considered the best in the world if your not facing the best competition , what is difficuilt for you clowns that you dont get that :deal , the UFC and WEC are really the only organisations that provide that sort of competition , other organisations can provide 1 or 2 world class oppopnents and thats pretty much about it , the UFC & WEC (BW & FW division's) in every weight class can provide a chasing pack of hungry wolves all operating on a world class level who else can provide that !!!!

    People critisise the UFC's HW division , why ????? , 1 reason and its a pretty **** poor reason but it is the reason , because Fedor's not in it , thats it , just because Fedor does not fight in the UFC's HW division .


    Its laughable
     
  13. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cain has a very good wrestling pedigree actually. He has decent standup, and good endurance. He has what it takes to beat Lesnar at this point.

    Now how much Lesnar improves is up to Lesnar.
     
  14. Rangersfan1982

    Rangersfan1982 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Couldn't agree more. Lesnar will win this one easy though IMO.
     
  15. boxer1025

    boxer1025 Guest

    I just saw the odds on the fight... its not until jan. 2011! Brock is -130 and cain is +105.... Im suprised the odds are so close!