Decade v Decade Semi 1 - 1890s vs 1990s

Certainly an intriguing man, by all accounts a marvel of his time.

How do you rate his power Janitor? And what kudos do you give him and Corbett for their draw: who got the better of it, did it go so long due to both men struggling to figure each other out? I have little knowledge of the round-by-rounds for this fight.

 

Some contemporaries questions Jacksons power, but his opponents never seemed to. Based on the testimony of fighters like McAuliffe and Jeffries I suspect that it was prety good.

With regard to the Jackson Corbett fight it was exciting in the early rounds but settled down to a snails pace latterly because both fighters were trying to avoid tiring themselves out. This is esentialy why it lasted as long as it did and ended in a draw. It was clear that there was not going to be a decisive result.

I get the idea that Corbett was pressed harder, though he did have Jackson hurt at one point. It should be noted however that Jackson took the fight with an injured ankle.

 

whatever anyway count my votes, bra. And Janitard you only didn't vote to keep your credibility intact whilst not racking up points for the 90's fighters. You're poison, bra. All over this thread with your little passive-aggressive attitude, influencing people's opinions with your territorial peer pressure

 

hahaha no i dont. Will be hard to live this one down. I'm not too clued up on Dempsey as it is and when i considered the dates i figured it was either a mistake or that he must've been like 16 or something

 

Cheers Janitor, informative as always :good

 

Okay, there's too many i haven't seen so like the last time this was the case a lot of my picks will just have to be on who is the greater fighter in my perception, i do apologise for this.

Heavy: Peter Jackson vs

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Light Heavy: Joe Choynski vs

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Middle: Bob Fitzimmons vs

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Welter: Tommy Ryan vs

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Light: Jack McAuliffe vs

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Feather:

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vs Naseem Hamed
Bantam: Jimmy Barry v

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Heavy: Peter Jackson vs

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Light Heavy: Bob Fitzsimmons vs

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Middle: Tommy Ryan vs

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Welter: Jack Dempsey vs

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Light: Jack McAuliffe vs

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Feather:

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vs Naseem Hamed
Bantam: Jimmy Barry v

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Heavy: Peter Jackson vs Lennox Lewis
Reading about this fight in the thread, I would still have to favour Lewis. I genuinly think he is a H2H nightmare for any Heavyweight and I just cant see Jackson cracking him.

Light Heavy: Joe Choynski vs Roy Jones Jr
Choynski seems to be similar to Fitzsimmons in the way he was a crafty counter-puncher who excelled against bigger men. He probably hit as hard as Fitzsimmons and was perhaps a better athlete but I do not think he was as skilled or could take such a good shot. I think Choynski would find it hard to get Jones to fall into traps or situations where he could really counter Jones with authority and take him out. I like Jones to outbox him then turn on the steam late and get him out with some well placed power-shots.


Middle: Bob Fitzsimmons vs Bernard Hopkins
This would be a very interesting match up. I could see both men setting traps waiting for the other man to fall in with lots of feinting and drawing. I think Hopkins has the edge in technique and technical skills and would more often than not get the better of these 'stand offs'. Fitzsimmons edge comes in power and aggresion here, I think Hopkins can do enough to diffuse this aggresion and stay out of the way of Fitzsimmons punches enough to take a decision. But it is the type of fight where one man making a little mistake can lose him the round and any momentum he had, I just think Hopkins is more well suited to this type of fight, and can deal with Fitz when he gets aggresive.

Welter: Jack Dempsey vs Felix Trinidad
I like Dempsey here. From what I gather he was a clever boxer-puncher who moved well and countered exceptionally. I like his movement and feinting to stop Trinidad getting off as well as he would like and allow Dempsey to pick his punches nicely. I'm not sure how he deals with Trinidads punch and offence when it does land though, be interesting to hear thoughts on this, I think Dempsey could out-manuever and outbox Trinidad for a decision win over 15.


Light: Jack McAuliffe vs Pernell Whitaker
McAuliffe seems to be the stand-up traditional boxer-puncher. A guy who would figure out his opponent by boxing then lower the boom by slugging. I think comparisons to a young Ezzard Charles seem apt. I dont think a traditional style fares well against Whittaker at all, who was unorthodox and very hard to outbox, and defensivly sound enough and sturdy enough not to get knocked out. I can see Whittaker constantly keeping McAuliffe off-balance with sharp jabbing and not letting him get set at all. Whittaker wins a wide decision on the verge of a shut-out.

Feather: George Dixon vs Naseem Hamed
I like Dixon here. Much in how the last round went where Hamed was confused, battered and embarrased by Pep, I can see this happening again. Dixon seems to be a defensive marvel, capable of blocking, slipping and sliding Hamed's blows. His long left and right straights seem to be powerful offensive weapons and used almost exclusivly, Barrera used straight shots effectivly on Hamed and I can see these being employed in similar fashion, to counter the rushes of Hamed. Also Dixon would at times rush his man to the ropes and work the body, I can see this being effective when perhaps after making Hamed miss he would rush him to the ropes and inflict some damage. I see a wide decision to Dixon.


Bantam: Jimmy Barry v Veeraprol Sahaprom
Do not know enough on either guy.



4-2-1

For the 1990's

Although if Fitzsimmons was at LightHeavyweight it would be a draw. But I think Fitz was the best Middleweight by a good bit and that Choynski could hold his own better at LHW than anyone else could at Middleweight.

 

Yep Agreed. Jackson was a legit. I think he would have schooled John L. Too talented for the bar room mauler. He also had the physical braun to match Sullivan's immense strength.

 

Jackson fought 61 rounds vs a prime james corbett with a pretty ****ed up ankle. It was very close(looks like Jackson slightly edged it)...but you can't question the man's heart and toughness. 61 rounds is a lot of boxing for someone with a badly injured ankle let alone going on even terms with an ATG.


Prime Peter Jackson vs Jeffries would have been very interesting