Tommy Carruthers vs. prime Tank Abbott, No Rules Fight, anything goes, who wins?

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  1. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It wouldn't even be fight, Carruthers would chew him up. All tanks is gonna do is try and rush him with wild punches and he'll leave self open to get countered easily. Tommy would go thru him like butter. And Tommy's speed would discombulate him the minute he tried to even throw one punch.
     
  2. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Have you ever seen this jerk off Tommy fight? Not just in these "tournaments" you seem to hate for some reason, but at all.

    Have you seen him fight a resisting opponent?

    Tank would **** on him and anybody who he trained under or who has trained under him.
     
  3. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh "I had talks" and "was supposed to"

    Typical.

    Man the **** up, or shut the **** up.
     
  4. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    Watched the vid - Tommy is very good for Wing Chun principles but typical flaws. Will have to train a lot to defend his base and his lateral defence was only choreographed scenes so hard to tell.

    I only have two questions.

    Are you Tommy Canibus81?

    If not does he know someone else is making all these dweebs topics? :?
     
  5. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    His lateral defense are the outsides that you learn from fencing, so he would have to have good footwork in order to be a black sash in Jeet Kune Do or he wouldn't of been able to move to other levels. That's just logic.

    And no, i'm not Tommy Carruthers, but I have spoke to him and he said the samething that me and sugarnold tried telling you guys is that even though Jeet Kune Do is an MMA system, it isn't made for the ring. You find links with every technique from different styles in Jeet Kune Do but everything is designed for quick thinking and take out moves.
     
  6. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's bull****. If JKD was so effective than it would have worked in the early days of Vale Tudo and the UFC when there were no rules except no eye gouging.
     
  7. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No sense in getting upset about this.:lol: You have a lot of hatred inside of you of people who don't have the same opinions as you do on Bruce Lee's principles. I don't understand why you hate Lee so much because I see it in all of your posts, even before I joined these boards I continuesly seen you debating with people about Lee and making sure you could find anything to discredit and destroy his legacy.
     
  8. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bruce Lee doesn't have a fighting legacy to speak of.
     
  9. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well sign up with a well credible Jeet Kune Do instructor so you could find out for yourself, instead yappin your ****in mouth. Trust me you'll find out. My sifu would love to put a knot on your head just to make sure you understand.
     
  10. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Meh, I'm not really a fighter at all. I am sure that there are many JKD, TKD, Aikido, and Sumo guys that could beat the ever loving **** out of me no problem.

    That doesn't mean I am wrong though. You still have to fight people to become a great fighter, and a fighter beats a non-fighter most of the time.
     
  11. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    JKD is an interesting philosophy with sound principals. It's not really an art born out of fighting or hard nose competition.

    BJJ techniques were born out of fighting and competing. Every mma fighter studies aspects of bjj.

    Muay Thai techniques were born out of fighting and competing. Most mma fighters at least study how to check and throw kicks thai style.

    Boxing techniques are born out of competition. Most mma fighters have boxing trainers. Bruce Lee's stance is basically a boxing stance, with boxing's footwork, and boxing's hand techniques minus turning over the jab.

    Wrestling has top notch takedowns, throws, and base control because the techniques were perfected through countless matches.

    JKD was a fighting philosophy created by a brilliant man. JKD was the style that was no style. JKD was created with the idea of incorporating what was effective.

    JKD is now a collection of ideas taken from a now dead, martial arts studying, 32 year old man's workbooks; and packaged as a complete fighting system for unproven guru's to market.

    Tank Abbott is a real fighter, and not just a mma practitioner. Tank really enjoys fighting. I remember seeing the list of rules lengthen after Tank's first UFC tournament. Remember watching him fish-hook Taktarov. How about the headlock he escaped by grabbing and twisting Taktarov's nose as though he was going to pull it off his face. Remember how he grabbed the fence for leverage as he drove his knee into Varlens face? Or was that Worsham? It all runs together doesn't it? The actual footage of him in a fight, I mean. Or competitive situation if you prefer, since he couldn't bite or eye gouge. Speaking of which, do you not believe Tank Abbott would know how to bite of gouge someone's eyes out?

    Tank is very raw, but not as unskilled as you make him out to be. Tank comes in behind a stiff left jab, and looks to go upside his opponent's head or secure the single.

    I don't think Tank would have any more trouble out of Carruthers as I think he would Paul Vunak or Jack LaLanne.
     
  12. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So no, you haven't seen him fight at all?

    No, I hate people who are both stupid and arrogant; I can deal with one but not both.

    I don't hate Lee, neutral on him, I hate the people who claim he is something he isn't. I do dislike a lot of the claims he made like "being able to beat anybody" (paraphrasing) but mostly I just hate the people who worship him for no real reason. He takes away from the true heros of MMA and other combat sports; Valemar Santana for example should be far more well known in fighting circles, because he both predated Lee and actually fought. Santana would have owned Lee.
     
  13. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Than you just admitted without saying it you have biasness towards Lee. This statement proves it. See how easy that was. And your not that bright yourself. You have a very limited way of thinking and most people set in their ways usually do. Now I know you think you may, but definetly not in my eyes.
     
  14. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ever seen this Tommy guy deal with real punches? Not from some flunky assistant who is cooperating, but a profesional fighter who has tons of real life fights as well, not to mention a solid wrestling background, ungodly power, and huge strength?

    Ever seen old Tommy hit somebody for real? Stop a takedown for real? Throw somebody for real?
     
  15. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That isn't a bias, it is a logical reason to not like him. I am not "biased" against hitler, I have reasons to dislike him.