Haye Wlad... 50-50 WAS offered!!!!!

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  1. rapidfire

    rapidfire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ask HBO who the big deal is.

    Off course it´s frustrating that we do not get the mega fight we want. But to call Haye the ***** and say he´s the ducking one is ridiculous. If Wlad really wants the fight as much as he´s saying, he won´t even negotiate and take any offer, Haye has made. To
    argue about possible TV-revenues shows that they´re both business and that´s how it works. They fight for money not for blaze and glory, as we fans want it.
     
  2. s23041983

    s23041983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    haye knows theres an extremely good chance he will get knocked out by either klit so he is using their names to make money before he fights them. for instance, every time a klit fights, in the post figth conference hayes name gets mentioned... the klits are practically doing all the work for him. haye is one fantastic business man. look at it this way, lets say for instance haye had fought a klit back when he signed the first contract with them, before fighting valuev. lets say klitschko beat him in that fight... where would haye be now? he wouldnt be fighting for half the money he gets now thats for sure. It makes sense for haye to be putting this fight off because the longer he does, the more money hes gonna make for himself. haye vs klitschko WILL happen... .but not before haye has made enough money to risk defeat!!! :deal:deal:deal
     
  3. robpalmer135

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    so you can say the same about the gate and other international money.

    Hayes point will be that he could make more money from UK tv against Ruiz than Wlad bring to the table in Germany for any fight. if wlad had a more lucrative tv deal it wouldnt not be a problem.

    you cant argue 1 way that

    Also the biggest fight in the UK would be Vitali not Wlad due to Williams and Lewis.

    you realise when mayweather vs hatton happend ricky got paid more than floyd because he kept them uk tv, floyd kept hbo and ricky was getting a lower percentage.
     
  4. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    More lucrative TV deal than Wlad has?

    What are you talking about? What TV deal had David in 2009? He pulls out because of Setanta bankrupt.

    The Fans in UK will watch Haye vs. Wlad not only because of Haye. So Haye will get more money with the Wlad fight than with other fights.

    50:50 is more than fair.

    David Haye is flying high! Too high. And it is nothing but talk. Why didn´t Haye box Ruiz in a stadion if he can sell it out alone with his name? Again it is nothing but talk to refuse to fight Wlad.
     
  5. speck

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    Haye doesn't want to fight Wlad.... but his fanboys keep discussing contract issues... Haye deserves this, he brings money, Klitschko's business practices... blah blah blah...
    Your boxer is a COWARD who's yet to fight a decent HW. Forget about Wlad, get ready to back up Haye's excuses for not fighting Chagaev.... after he fights Harrison - the fight he's laughed at so may times...
     
  6. Saku

    Saku We Are All One Full Member

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    UNFAIR!!!:hey
     
  7. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It is becoming clear now that Haye has no intention of fighting any Klit unless as his last fight and payday...So I presume when he eventually fights them he will be ready to retire and be unprepared and take a Seldon like dive to avoid a prolonged beating.
    Sad but I used to think Haye was gonna inject exctement into the HW division...but now I would love to see Audley Harrison knock him out. At least Audley would jump at the chance to fight a Klit..
     
  8. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haye has a deal with Sky, who show his fights on any channel they want, which means Sky PPV. The Valuev fight got close to a million viewers, despite nobody knowing who Valuev was.

    People say Wlad brings a lot, and he does in other countries, but nobody knows who he is here. The UK boxing market isn't even big enough to be capable of doubling, if you genuinely think Wlad brings 50% of the interest. In reality, maybe 5% of those will really know who he is and even less will pay to see him, not Haye.

    I don't think Wlad deserves absolutely nothing, but all megafights in recent years, have had the British fighter taking the lions share over here. Rightly so, too. Hatton did it against Pacquiao and Mayweather because he deserved it. So does Haye.
     
  9. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Remember when Haye/Booth said they wanted an even 50-50 split, this was just what like 10-12 weeks ago?

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...itschko-brothers-should-fight-each-other.html

    Haye simply does not want to fight, not right now anyways. He will come up with new demand just so he can delay a fight until he thinks is ready or until he got rid of Sauerland. It's obvious to anybody but our 2-3 dogmatic naysayers here with British passports. Sorry to say it but that's how it is. I mean no disrespect.
     
  10. dftaylor

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    the purse doesn't include tv money, usually.
     
  11. Saku

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    When Haye doesnt accept the conditions then its because of a slavery contract, when Wlad doesnt accept then he is greedy. Great :-(
    You dont remember anymore who wanted the fight badly at first huh
    Wlad doesnt need the money, he only wants to spank Haye's butt, however the price is too high for that, and Haye's team knows that.
     
  12. robpalmer135

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    look i agree 50-50 is more than fair but Haye and haye is ducking wlad but dont kid yourself haye has a better tv deal than Wlad.

    Hayes deal is with Sky PPV and he gets guarenteed £5 from every buy. He only has to get 400,000 buys for the fight to bring more money to the table in the UK than Wlad brings in germany. He did that with John Ruiz!!!!

    beyond the hardcore fans nobody knows who Wlad is. Haye is a bigger name in Germany than Klitscko is in the UK.
     
  13. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's the purse. 50/50 on that was accepted.

    The key is the TV money. Wlad has demanded 50% and won't budge.
     
  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How many buys did the Ruiz fight get, mate?
     
  15. robpalmer135

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    it was more than half a million.

    Put it this way in terms of PPV sales Haye vs Valuev is 2nd to only Mayweather vs Hatton. Bigger sales than Lewis vs Tyson and Bruno vs Tyson.

    that is all down to Hayes promotional work as well.