Just have to get this off my chest

Pushing things? Just a ****ing bit.

 

A loss certainly meant something in the case of Hozumi Hasegawa. He hadn't fought many world beaters or names at all before facing off against Montiel. Although undoubtely a grade A fighter, Montiel was actually moving up and was coming off a few pedestrian performances.

No question we'll be seeing many "Floyd was always a fraud" threads in the event he faces and loses to the Filipino sensation, but he's got a pretty good resume by contemporary standards now.

 

Crazy **** it certainly is. Floyd Mayweather is an outstanding boxer, why people can't enjoy that as it is ****ing happening is beyond me. People who were saying he would never fight Mosley because it's a toss up, as soon as the fight got made changed their minds to it being a joke fight etc, so cringing.

 

Boxing fans are rather fickle, certainly.

It's become fashionable to hate Floyd Mayweather. He does act a dick.

 

Don't you mean Choynski instead of Smith ?

 

Difference being his wins equate to little as well Teeto.

 

And I certainly don't 'hate' Floyd because of his out-of-ring persona.

It's due to people considering him a top 50 fighter of all time. Which, resume and skillset, he plainly isn't.

The most overrated fighter of the past 25 years.

 

Whereas Hasegawa has been beating the **** out of the who's who of the last 10 years right? :yep

 

I dislike him for it.

I think he has the skillset, he just doesn't have the resume but he's almost there now.

 

Yeah, because I rate Hasegawa int he top 50 of all time?!?!?!?!? I don't even rate him as a top 20 Bantam?!?!?!??!

Greg said 'Hasegawas career is over' or summat to that effect. I said it wasn't.

Totally different point. You guys know I'm thorough, why you think I'd underrate a fighter based on personal bias I dunno.

 

Greg is clown shoes...and so is his left hook.

I can't remember the last time I heard you say something positive or good about Floyd Mayweather Jr, that's all. Besides, to say his wins equate to basically **** all on the grand scale is a pretty horrendous thing to say.

 

No, it's a fair thing to say.

He doesn't have a very good resume.

There are fighters that look as aesthetically pleasing but don't get the same kudos he gets.

I think he looked good against Mosley. Not an opponent in his prime though. I'd rate him over Aaron Pryor in my ATG list. Positive enough?

**** it, I've been over it to many times, I'm off. Can't be arsed.

 

:yep You sure there's no chip, mate?

 

Pryor probably wouldn't make my top 80.

 

I was being sarcastic BB, Gunboat Smith put Johnson through the ropes in sparring for the Ketchel fight, Mendoza claims it was tko.
He uses this to assert that Johnson had chin problems ,along with him being kod by Choynsky,[Choynsky kod Johnson with a blow to the stomach according to Denzil Batchelor's book on Jack.