Just have to get this off my chest

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by reznick, Jul 8, 2010.


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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    hell yea ima johnson fan boy, hes the man. However, Unless the subject is a matter of opinion, I try not to let favoritism cloud my judgement.

    Im not saying Johnsons combos were like Alis. I posted that video example because people in here are making it sound like throwing many punches is not within the realm of mentality of fighters like Johnson.

    And even if the guy was hitting was a freakin heavybag it would have been impressive. Those are all very hard jabs hes throwing, and its at least 12 of them in the matter of seconds, while hes ready to move away at any second.

    You would all be singing the same tune about Ali had we only had post-exile fight footage available to us.
     
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  2. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    And the similarities I see with Ali and Johnson:

    Their character

    Style of using jabs and straights on the outside while staying on the move

    Ability to control the opponent and the fight

    Enjoyed slowly picking away at opponents



    When I say Ali was influenced by Johnson, its pertaining to character.
    Their fighting similarities just happen to be a coincidence

    Its possible their similarity in character affected their ring styles, who knows
     
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  3. Flea Man

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  4. ricardoparker93

    ricardoparker93 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If we had post exile footage we'd have FOTC, Manilla, the Foreman fight, wins over Jerry Quarry, Jimmy Ellis. Maybe Johnson did enjoy toying with opponents, but I very rarely see him throw a regular one two unless he has a man hurt. Perhaps its an issue of mentality, but Johnson would not be able to compete with great or even very good heavyweights of the more modern era without a more consistent offence.
     
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  5. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    **** that was a late reply, same here with thinking it's ****, i can never just take the extra step and delete mine, props to you
     
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  6. gentleman jim

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    I think Johnson would do fine in the modern age, A little tweaking here and there of course but otherwise with his talent and natural ability he would fit right in. Great strength, great reflexes, good footwork and a good boxing brain. He'd do well.
     
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  7. Briscoe

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    Nah, I see exactly what you're talking about. I used to have the same mentality that boxing "evolved" past the "past". When I was really young I used to assume the latest meant that that champ was also the greatest. Watching Riddick Bowe really showed me otherwise. The more I stay close to this sport, the more I realize and respect. I was reading a post on how crafty Lew Tendler was and I was blown away. Also the recent video about Charley Burley was insanely brilliant. At my college library I found a really old book on boxing written by Edward Haslett (spelling might be off here) from pre-1950s and it's got more technical detail then the "Box Like the Pros" by Joe Frazier.
     
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  8. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Johnson would absolutely own this divison. IF he adapted and brought his hands up. Kind of hard to say because we don't know if he would do that..
     
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  9. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Yea that's what im talkin about


    I read some parts of Pierce Egan's "Boxiana" and it really shows how serious they took boxing back then. Fighters would know in their heads, six different ways to parry a jab. The diets were incredibly strict, and the training was a lot tougher.
     
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