Will you Blame Arum or Pac?

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  1. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    floyd dd not hinder the process by asking for olympic style drug testing, all pac had to do was say yes lets do this and the fight would hae happened in march, with a 50/50 split. pac hindered the foght as he said he refused to do it 18 days at first and then 14 few weeks after

    learn more about the sport first and then comment and also learn to post knowing the solid facts:bbb
     
  2. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    we want to see this fight irregardless of who gets more. you guys just want floyd to earn his money.
     
  3. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    The main reason I see Pac being able to stop floyd is because the right hand Shane buckled floyd with landed on Cotto about 200 times in their fight.

    Cotto's punch resistance is not that good, but it appears more and more that after the Judah/Mosley fights, Cotto is proving to handle punches better than floyd.

    I think floyd is a defensive wizard for a reason. He has no whiskers.
    His punch resistance is low, so he trains his neck a lot so it can absorb the shock of the guys he fights.

    Pac will land on floyd's chin and won't be discouraged when he doesn't get stopped immediately, so floyd is going to have to box and move, even thought his legs are less effective than pac's.
    Lucky for floyd his body movement, shoulder roll and head movement are still really good, so he could survive pac and pot shot/counter a UD out of him.

    But I don't see floyd getting hurt at any point and being able to make it to the finish line.
     
  4. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is the thing that *******s keep trying to sell that is totally false. Mayweathers stance on the drug testing has never changed. Its Pac and his camp that have changed then changed then changed again. It went from..."We have no problem with any kind of testing they want" to "We will only take three blood test, on these three dates" to "We are giving in to what He wants" To "We will take the test but only when we want to"

    Bottom line is what so many are missing. Just because Arum agreed to something doesnt mean that he agreed to what Floyd was asking. Its like a guy saying that he will paint your house for $2500 but you only offered to pay him $1000. There is a gap there. What Im saying is you clowns have no idea whats in that offer or contract or whatever it is. Far as we know they could have asked that Pac get the bigger cut, in Dallas.

    You have a bunch of ball tick, and hater talking about **** that they dont have a clue about. the only thing that gets me about the whole thing is the way that Arum has already locked down a date with Jones in Dallas and has spent more time talking about Cotto II then Mayweather I. Its just like the first time.
     
  5. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's fair. I almost hope that Manny rocks him early because that seems to bring the best out of Floyd. When he doesn't get hurt, he will try to make things easy for himself and settle for a UD.

    I want this fight to end convincingly.
     
  6. wendel

    wendel Member Full Member

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    There's no argument here. Fact of the matter is that the delay isn't due to contractual issues. If the contract sucked, it would not be very hard for Floyd or GBP to come out and say that the terms suck and that's why they're not signing. The fact that they are silent shows that they are holding back for a different reason. Since whatever the reason is out of Team Pac's hands, I cannot see how this can be blamed on Pac or Arum.
     
  7. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Get the **** out of here with that bull ****. Mosley never landed a shot like that on cotto.
     
  8. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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  9. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    This is why the forum was flooded with bull**** about how Floyd is so evil for AZZking for a higher %.

    pac has said it in the past, straight out of his own damn mouth, that Floyd sees boxing only as a business. He already knows the Mayweather mentality, and Floyd actually has cold, hard numbers to back up his demands. Mr. I Fight for my country and can rich live in the phillipines should practice what he preaches.
     
  10. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    is pacs one punch power stronger then shanes?

    since when has cottos punch resistance not been good?

    at 140 he had weight problems. he faced pac who is fast as hell and is wrong style wise for him

    and fought margo with rocks in his gloves i think he got good resitance

    also he didnt get knocked out clean in any of those fights
     
  11. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Stop quoting my **** and responding to me, I don't care what you think.
    You're too biased to make any debate interesting.
     
  12. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    What the **** are you talking about??? He landed a ton of them.
     
  13. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    You must have no business sense.
     
  14. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    what is this dude on, the top fights have always been in vegas, or in madison square garden. he made drug testing clear before the first negotiations so team pac already knew the major implications and decided to bail

    he has not lost any chips

    goodbye
     
  15. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Go back and find once that Floyd spoke about talks before the fight was signed??? He doesnt do it, he never has. You dont have to when your not tring to win the battle in the public. Arum is and always is playing the angles with his fighters. So that if a fight falls apart he can blame or try and blame it on the other guy. but the truth is the one with the history of this kind of **** is ARUM. Pavlik VS AA, Pavlik vs Williams, cotto vs Mosely II, Williams vs Margo, Margo vs Floyd, Arum is the common factor:good