Manny Steward's thoughts on Mike Tyson

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by general zod, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2006
    Messages:
    22,560
    Likes Received:
    68
    I think a lot of people greatly underestimate Tyson as a boxer because of how impressive his physical skills were. Sure, he was incredibly fast and had one punch knockout power but he was always a boxer puncher in his early career. As soon as that changed, he lost it. It's as simple as that to me. Was it his age which changed his style or his style which changed? I think, as with most punchers, it was the latter.

    But it was bound to happen. He could control anything in his life, especially not his dedication to the sport. Once his love went, so did the fine aspects which made him a great fighter, rather than one blessed from birth.
     
  2. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2009
    Messages:
    19,779
    Likes Received:
    704
    :lol: Sometimes he says something like, "This is an interesting matchup I'm not sure how it'll be fought" then during the second half of the fight at around the 8th or 9th round he'll say, "This fight is going exactly how I expected it to".lol
     
  3. zoo

    zoo Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2006
    Messages:
    1,424
    Likes Received:
    2
    Well the age is just Manny's guess, but he is right that Tyson stopped doing what made him great. I think it's more of a lack of discipline to the craft and becoming too dependant on power though.
     
  4. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2009
    Messages:
    27,388
    Likes Received:
    2
    I was joking man. He didn't do it. :nono
     
  5. doom bull

    doom bull Certified Limb Boner Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2005
    Messages:
    1,995
    Likes Received:
    1
    I guess celebrities just can't get chicks liquored up and take advantage of them like they used to.
     
  6. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2009
    Messages:
    19,779
    Likes Received:
    704
    :fireDamn sarcasm!!!:lol:
     
  7. finalfight

    finalfight Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2008
    Messages:
    6,706
    Likes Received:
    2
    Living on the edge and messing with drugs, prescription and otherwise, and alcohol is what shortened Mike's career and messed up his ability. Nothing to do with age, everything to do with lifestyle.
     
  8. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2009
    Messages:
    27,388
    Likes Received:
    2
    Right on!
     
  9. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2006
    Messages:
    20,449
    Likes Received:
    55
    I agree.
    His style depended on a lot of movement which neans he was using a lot of energy. As you get older you have less energy.
    We and this includs myself tends to blame his downfall on him leaving Kiven Roony. However it is likely that he would have declined at the same time with or without him.
    This doesn't take away from anything Tyson did.
     
  10. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2010
    Messages:
    34,568
    Likes Received:
    1,279
    I think Robin Givens KOd Mike Tyson
     
  11. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2009
    Messages:
    27,388
    Likes Received:
    2
    All fighters decline. Problem is that Mike had fast women, fast motorcycles, drugs, and stress speeding his up.

    The death of Cus just meant the popping of Mike Tyson's protective bubble and the evils of the world being more accessible. Mike gravitated to what he knew... the streets/fast living. Not good for a fighter.
     
  12. sir axeman

    sir axeman Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2007
    Messages:
    5,307
    Likes Received:
    159
    Tyson said in an interview once how he noticed he got tired in fights in the later rounds were he never felt like that when he was younger. But I think his devotion waned - he got rich and famous. And like many athletes before him and after him money and success is often something they dont handle very well. So their dedication erodes...and you know the rest! His heart wasn't in it for the last few years he did fight. His training wasnt what it used to be. Sadly whilst I do think of Tyson as an ATG he never met his full potential because his devotion didn't last long enough to see him fullfill what he could have done. Tyson never had that warrior spirit in him when the goin gets tough! He would fold...and he never came back for a revenge match and won. If the heart isnt there then the body isnt!! It all comes first from within a mans heart - that "fire in the belly" if that isnt there then the fire has gone out and the body will and cannot do what it could do when there was that fire.
     
  13. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2007
    Messages:
    37,866
    Likes Received:
    45
    Tyson's one goal and main purpose in boxing was to be the youngest heavyweight champion in history. Everything after that was a paycheck.
     
  14. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2010
    Messages:
    16,315
    Likes Received:
    13
    hahaha yeah, manny's famous words.
     
  15. motorcity cobra

    motorcity cobra hooker Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2010
    Messages:
    1,077
    Likes Received:
    0
    why don't we get Longcount to ask the man himself. He apparently knows him quite well according to his posts