It's ****in' lame how that word AIDS slips off everybody's tongue almost out of extinct these days. Real tasteful. ...Plus, I wasn't asking you.
That I would favor Pacquiao to beat Hamed but tricky things can happen to speedy fighters like Pacquiao when they face another fighter with some very good speed of his own. Granted legends like Barrera and Marquez are not slow by any means but its safe to say that they don't possess the speed Hamed does nor the punching power, though the two mentioned fighters can crack hard also at 126 and 130. As far as PowerPuncher trying to slag off Pacquiao's comp, that's crazy for him to do when comparing him to Hamed but I guess he did that to counter Popkins and others, underrating of Hamed. As for Pacquiao fight against Cotto, yes that fight showed that Pac beats any version of Cotto but one cannot say that was the same Cotto who beat Mosley by my score margins of 8-4 rounds. Pac and Roach didn't choose to fight Cotto cause he looked impressive against Clottey, they chose to fight him cause he didn't impress and some even felt he might have lost that fight. I agree with you that Hamed ain't no Julian Jackson in the punching power category and anyone who thinks Hamed sparks Pac with one punch is overrating Hamed's power. One factor that hasn't really been discussed here all that much is Pacquiao's height and reach advantage, that alone would tell me that Pac will be able to land first and if he lands first he gets into a rhythm first. Now some here may be quick to bring up Marquez coming back from 3 knockdowns in the 1st round against Pac but that's one of those rare situations in a fight that doesn't happen often.
He's a total douchenozzle. He wants to say 1 pound is nothing but where do you draw the line? Maybe he should have fought at the original proposed 144 catchweight. What's another pound anyway?
Hamed stands no chance against Pac. **** me he was befuddled and wide open against fellow southpaw Kevin Kelley who neither punched as hard or possessed close to Manny's blazing speed,plus Kelley was well past his best.Hamed yo-yo'd up and down from the floor (yeah yeah his chin was awesome it was just his balance every time :nut) before his power bailed him out big time. I can't see Hamed (who was hittable himself) coping with Manny's overwhelming combination of speed and aggression.Sure he'd land his share but Manny just keeps going when hit and doesn't become gunshy which I'm not so sure Hamed can say as well.He was quite passive late against MAB imo. Manny was more one dimensional at Feather and threw predictable one-two's pretty much the whole time BUT he threw them ****ing fast,hard and often.Predictablity is one thing but I can look out my window and predict if it's going to rain but it doesn't mean I can stop it and Manny's the same. Predictably effective.Anyway Manny TKO 10.
Yet again, you are justifying your reputation. I have made weight numerous times, I box. And I know for an absolute concrete fact that if I made one weight comfortably after a 10-week training camp, then was asked to weigh one pound lighter in my next fight after another 10-week training camp, it would make absolutely zero difference whatsoever. The very idea is ****ing insane, you are only proving over and over what a biased braindead **** you are by saying otherwise. And when are you going to grow the **** up about people being "owned". A couple of unknown random teenage fanboys popping up on a thread and saying "You a ******, that wasn't the real Cotto" without even bothering to read the opening post is not "owning" anything. ****ing idiot. No wonder every Classic poster despises and ridicules you. :good Tell me again about how Ricky Hatton was stronger and had better punch resistance at 147 than Julio Cesar Chavez did at 130...
How is Cotto, Hatton Clottey relevant? In this discussion it aint. Not like ****ing Josua Clottey is al that anyway
Fine, remove them from that post then. Pac proved it against Barrera, Morales, Marquez... Hamed proved it against Steve Robinson, Augie Sanchez, Kevin Kelley, Paul Ingle... The point remains the exact same.
Actually, I mentioned this several times, though more in the form that Hamed's height and reach would be a disadvantage in this fight, rather than mentioning Pacquiao's advantages.
Feeble logic. You don't have to even think about drawing lines anywhere, nor any other such irrelevant, infantile bull****. The cold hard fact is that the difference was 1 pound. You can blunder on talking shite about lines in the sand till Doomsday, but the fact will always remain that the difference was 1 pound, and anyone with a brain knows it did not affect Cotto in the slightest, because it is such a tiny, trivial amount of more weight to shed over a 10-week training camp. It really is ASTOUNDING to me, truly SHOCKING, that either your love for Cotto or your hate of Pacquiao has twisted your mind into thinking something so bizarre and impossible. I feel sorry for you. You have lost all contact with rationality, for sure.
@ you daring to insult my intelligence after I own you time and again :yep Everyone owns you time and again because you're the dumbest poster on this forum :yep You were even owned on your own thread and ignored every piece of evidence that came your way time and again, just as you are ignoring all the evidence against you in this thread. Everyone on the thread knew more about weight making than you. I seriously doubt you've ever made weight or boxed, its blatantly obvious, otherwise you'd know how hard it is to make 147lb when you're 160lbs ripped Why are you calling others fanboy when thats all you bring to any Pacquaio discussion? There were far smarter posters on your thread than yourself, not saying much given how ******ed you are mind And yes a 160lb Hatton (his ring weight) is stronger than a 130lb Chavez, I was never talking strength not P4P you ****wit, but obviously you're not smart enough to process that
Hmmm. Except there was no scientific or medical evidence whatsoever produced on that thread, just one bunch of fanboys fighting with another group, and me stuck in the middle. The only person who got owned was that '**** OBC, who disappeared after being embarrassed over why Cotto was more tired late on in the Pacquiao fight than the Foreman fight. And by the way, the heaviest Cotto ever weighed at welter on fightnight was 159 vs Urkal, and he looked like ****, so your "160lbs ripped" theory is, like everything else you say, utter manure. :smoke atschatschatsch BUT WHAT IS THE POINT OF THAT YOU COMPLETE ****ING SIMPLETON?????? Even for you, this statement has left me utterly, utterly dumbfounded. Of course a 160lbs man is stronger than a 130lbs man, but what is that? How is that a point to make??? When Floyd fought at 130, he was 130, and he fought guys in that weight range. When Floyd fought at 147, he was 147-152, and he fought guys in that weight range. So what the **** is your point in saying a 160lbs Hatton had better punch resistance and was stronger than a 130lbs Chavez? That means nothing, you complete dickcheese, doesn't it? My point was that one of the many, many reasons why Chavez would be a far, far tougher opponent at 130 for Floyd than Hatton was at 147 for Floyd was because Chavez would be a more physically formidable opponent, which you argued against, saying Hatton was stronger and had better punch resistance. DO YOU REALLY NOT UNDERSTAND HOW ******ED THAT IS??? REALLY? I'll do my best: Floyd at 130 is not as strong or as powerful as he is at 147, because he weighs more at 147 patsch genuinely cannot believe this needs explaining, you are the worst poster in ESB history, for 100% certainty). Thus, the 130 Floyd would find the 130 Chavez a more physically daunting task than the 147 Floyd would find the 147 Hatton because: (a) Hatton was shite at welterweight, he was too small for the division and the extra weight hindered him, as shown by his dire performance vs Collazo, which proved his chin and strength were not the same at ww as they were at 140 (b) Chavez was strong as an ox at 130, his punch resistance was exceptional (light years ahead of Hatton in that regard, even light years ahead of Hatton at his best weight, which wasn't 147), and he knew how to use his physical gifts to maximize their effectiveness Unbelievable.