Manny Pacquiao vs Paul Williams

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  1. NeckBreaknAiken

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    Paul by stoppage.

    Although Paul would be fighting someone unlike he has seen, there are some distinct advantages Paul has that Pac has never faced on such a high level.

    Size:
    Pac has not faced someone with the height and reach that Paul has. And despite the fact that Paul does not necessarily use his height to his full advantage, he still has an 8 inch height advantage, and a forever reach advantage. By default, he would win any and every exchange from a distance.

    Stamina and Workrate:
    There is not a single one of Pac's recent opponents who have had close to the workrate that Paul has. Paul is the only fighter that Pac could possible face that has better stamina than him.

    Heart:
    You can question a lot of things about Paul, but his heart is not one of them. Clottey showed none. Cotto showed very little as he started backing up once things got rough. When **** got rough against Martinez, (who at 160 hits harder than Pac at 147) Paul walked right through those punches and pressed the actions. He was hit cleanly with the same bombs that cut up Pavlik and had him hurt badly in those later rounds, and hit even more cleanly by them. Still he pressed on. I don't thin Pac is ready to face that type of pressure from someone who will press on and on and on and on. And he doesn't have the one-punch power to stop Paul.

    In-close fighting:
    Paul is 38-1 without the best outisde game. He didn't get that way by being soft on the inside. He goes "Hard in the Paint"... and if Pac thinks he can fight him upclose just because he's tall and giving up his height, he's in for a surprise.





    About those little clips that Philla put up...

    There is not a single one of those blind, leaning shots that would have had the reach to catch Paul anywhere but in the chest. He is super fast, and has good combo speed, but Paul by default will avoid many of those punches, as he has just as many angles of his own.




    About Quintana...

    Paul lost to Carlos, and has never made excuses for it. But at the same time, you cant take credit away from him for going back to the drawing board and getting it right. And that first fight was no schooling. Each judge had that fight a clear 7-5. He lost end of. But to use that fight as a guage is ridiculous. Pac simply is not the type of fighter Quintana is. He is a superior fighter by far, but not in the ways that are necessary to pull of what Quintana did.




    About Relentless...

    Aren't you tired of being such a *****? No one belives Paul has ducked anyone. **** your ***** ass up.
     
  2. LukeO

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    Pac KO/TKO
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  3. horst

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    I think Pac would win, but I'm not too confident on it. Williams would have massive advantages that can't be overlooked. My thinking behind Pac edging it is just that Williams is so damn easy to hit, with Pac's speed he would be landing at will. In saying that, Williams's size and workrate means he'd land a lot of leather too probably. Pac's defence now is based around movement, but Williams is so big and rangy that moving in and out wouldn't get him out of harm's way the way it does with smaller fighters. Either way, I think this would be a war. I back Pac because I think he is faster, has better power, and is more accurate, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Williams used his physical advantages to get the win. It's not a fight I'd ever want Manny to take, it's a bit of a size mismatch. It'd be like Williams himself fighting Chad Dawson or something.
     
  4. NeckBreaknAiken

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    :patsch

    Somepne hacked me.... obviously.
     
  5. Hermit

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    Problem checking a simple box choice? :D
     
  6. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Just rewatched the Williams and Martinez fight. Williams stamina wasn't that great in the last few rounds.
     
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    He actually called that a counter.:rofl
     
  8. eze

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    That cholo Alvarez likes it, too.
     
  10. Hermit

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    Martinez might have taken more out of him than Pac could. I still think Pac and Floyd both pick him apart. Pac is a small WW and Paul is a huge WW but that hasn't bothered Pac in the past. Martinez made Paul miss and pay. Pac could do the same. It really comes down to if Pac has enough power because Paul does seem to take shots well.
     
  11. Hermit

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    It was a preemptive counter.
     
  12. eze

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    Pac read his mind.
     
  13. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Don't you know that pac is so great that he doesn't even need to fight for money?
     
  14. Farmboxer

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    Williams is a fraud. Martinez beat his arse. Cintron was on his way to a knockout before Williams was saved by his home town. Margarito beat Williams into a bloody mess. Pac would knock Williams out.
     
  15. Leon

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    I'd put my money on Williams. pac can't hurt Williams enough. pac is a sucker for uppercuts, and Williams throws a great one.