The winner of the super 6 would of trumped Calzaghe's career in little over 2 years?

The answer would have to be NO. America has never forgiven Calzaghe for beating there top fighters and look for anything to belittle his achievements. Here goes in explaining

Dirrell hadnt beaten anyone of real note entering the super 6, lost to Froch and got a DQ win over Abraham, who was a former MW champ who has no real SMW resume and who was his big MW win against? Exactly.
Ward deserves credit for beating Kessler even though he was dirty with the head, but Kessler was a fighter that Calzaghe had exposed and hadnt looked the same since. Think if Ward wins the super 6, he wont have fought an undefeated fighter and his biggest win will probably be Kessler.
Green hadnt beaten anyone of note and had lost to Miranda before entering the super 6.

If you look at some of the fighters on Calzaghes resume that people who dont know ridicule ie
Veit has done more in his career than Dirrell
Mkertchyan has done more than Green
Kessler was exposed and beaten by Calzaghe before entering the super 6
Wards biggest win will probably be Kessler, who Calzaghe beat when undefeated.
Froch is limited but is willing but you could argue he has a lesser resume than B Mitchell the 2 time WBA SMW champ

The winner of the super 6 wont have undefeated Kessler, undefeated Lacy, Eubank, Mkertchyan, undefeated Veit, Reid, Woodhall, Starie, Brewer, Bika, Mitchell, Ring LHW champ Hopkins, Jones and lesser names like Manfredo, Sheika

Remember 21 defences WBO WBC WBA IBF Ring titles at SMW & Ring LHW title 46-0 and 24 title fights
so no

 

Good post.
Thats right fighters get rated higher if they are recognised rather than how good they are. The super 6 is well advertised and because of that people have got to know the fighters, but look at the facts
Green, Dirrell & Abraham as a SMW have done less than Veit did who Calzaghe beat.
Ward has a good win over Kessler who Calzaghe exposed 2 years earlier when he was undefeated.
Froch beat Dirrell but in turn lost to Kessler and it could be argued that B Mitchell who Joe beat has done more than Froch

 

The simple answer is no.

Consistency is underrated in boxing. Fighters like Holmes or Calzaghe didn't have the one career defining win, like Frazier over Ali, but Frazier would never have been able to stay champ for 7 - 10 years, even without Foreman or Ali around. Calzaghe didn't lose a boxing match from age 17 - 37. Never a real off - night, never upset by a lesser fighter, never a gift decision in his favor. That's ****ing incredible and can'tbe topped with five very good wins.

 

ugh, this is a redic thread, of course not!

If Any1 except Ward wins, its clear that calzaghe has has a better carreer, i think all of us can agree on that.

If ward wins, who will be his best win exactly? That's right, KESSLER, and a worse Kessler than the one that fought Joe.

Let not forget that Joe went UP in weight after unifying the division to face the #3 p4p fighter in the world, and at Hopkins' best weight.

So no, on resume alone, Calzage still is way better. And thats not forgetting stuff such as 46-0, number of defenses blah blah blah

 

I think the fact that most fighters will leave the Super 6 with defeats on their records shows that they're all inferior fighters, how could any of them be rated about Calzaghe?

 

Mario Veit is one of the top fighters of the last 20 years. Nobody in the Super 6 is even close to his level.

 

I wouldnt go quite that far, but on a side note Veit was only ever been beaten by fighters who were world champs or fighters who became world champs, and has wins over Lock, Brewer & Braehmer the current WBO LHW champ, and has done more as a SMW than Dirrell, Green & Abraham as a SMW.

 

Do you mean Mock? Come on man, those 3 guys were no good. Brewer had lost a **** load of times before he fought Veit and the rest of done almost nothing of note. Mock was on a savage losing streak when Veit beat him, how the hell are you claiming Veit was in ANY way a good win.

PLUS, you discredit Dirrell as a member of the Super 6, and yet Veit had faced none of those guys you named when he faced Calzaghe.

Abraham's resume at Middle pisses all over those 3 guys.

 

So they've all been in World Title fights and lost against top opposition, what seperates them from somebody like Edision Miranda, another gatekeeper. The fact that Veit held the interim WBO title?

I'd say his best wins were Miranda, Elcock, Gevor and Oral. Add to that Taylor at SMW, undefeated, and 10 defenses of his MW title and he would have been one of Calzaghe's top victories.

Probably his 3rd best victory, behind Hopkins and Kessler. And Dirrell has that under his belt at 26, who knows what he will accomplish, I guarantee it will be more than picking up an interim WBO title like Veit.

 

Thats what happens when the top fighters face each other, sometimes they win, sometimes they lose. Undefeated records are not proof of an amazing fighter, it's proof of a lack of good opposition.

No it could not. Froch is fighting guys at a much higher level than Mitchell

 

Say what you want but Calzaghe/Cokezaghe could come out of retirement and still win the Super Six.

No one in it is better than him.

 

Braehmer was hardly facing the top dogs in the LHW division to pick up that WBO title.

It is better though, we could go through other undefeated no-names who Abraham defeated if you want.

Oops, I forgot about Reid, I rate that as a good win. But Mitchell, Lacy and Woodhall above Abraham, nah.

That fact that you have Jones in there shows how horribly biased you are

11th best win? I'm giving up on this if you really believe that.