UK Fighters title updates: Macklin vs Barker purse bids due today

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  1. avidlemon

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    ****ing hell. Oh well. At least Smigga has an opponent now
     
  2. Beeston Brawler

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    What did we say earlier about rankings/eliminators?

    :lol:

    :patsch

    Smith by stoppage - take that to the bank :hey
     
  3. LHL

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    Shocking fight. Smith should deal with him easily
     
  4. robpalmer135

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    all the talk off world titles and groves not being ready from the scouse!!!
     
  5. avidlemon

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    Beeston, this came out of left field for me. But Who's to say that mcdermott wont pull out at the last minute agreeing to chalenge the winner of prizefghter - bantamweight edition to fight for the british masters heavyweight title or something?
    Rob - i will suspend talk of a world title fight for now, but groves needs smith right now like a hole in the head. take that to the bank and spunk on the cashier
     
  6. robpalmer135

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    yeh thats incorrect though. Its september 25th in Manchester confirmed by his trainer.
     
  7. robpalmer135

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    you can take this to the bank.

    Groves is the commonwelath champion, undefeated and a more credible challanger than Darren McDermott. Since the Barker fight McDermott returned to Middleweight and win a boring 10 round decision agaisnt Danny Butler in November. Its a horrific fight.

    If Groves get in the ring with Smith he will knock him out. If you can find me a poster that not from Liverpool that thinks differently I will be shocked. take that to the bank.
     
  8. avidlemon

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    To be honest Rob, i think you are a Groves fan boy, and a Smith hater. Nothing wrong with that, it just makes you sound bitter.
    It's the fight that is going to happen, so we gotta live with it. Groves is going to **** about with his commonwealth title for a while, fight in "vegas" baby on the undercards against mexican part time boxer/part time mechanics, and really learn his trade. I actually like Groves, and think he is talented, but the fight for him right now is degale, or someone in the mould of dilks/quigley/dodson. Come through those fights with good performances, then great, go for the british, but it ain't happening now.

    Take that to the bank, give it to the manager, **** his wife, cum in her face and call her a *****
     
  9. robpalmer135

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    Groves called out Paul Smith. Smith laughed it off and said he was looking for bigger fights. Groves calls him out again and Smith ends up fighting McDermott. The only reason Groves will **** about with the Commonwealth is becuase the British champion is ducking him.

    I guarentee you Groves first Commonwealth defence is a better opponent than Darren McDermott. Kenny Anderson, Tony Quigley, Paul David and Carl Dilks would all be better fights for Smith and Groves will fight one of those or a solid commonwealth eligable fighter like Chilemba or Gare.

    I am a fan of Groves, but if anyones a fanboy its you for Smith. How else can you explain trying to defend Darren McDermott.

    As for being a Smith hater, I agree. The guy is ****, and his fights are boring. Nobody outside of Liverpool gives him a chance at winning anything other than a Warren Boxing Organisation title. Groves would smash him if it today, next week or next year.
     
  10. avidlemon

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    At the end of the day Rob, Groves is fighting better opposition than Degale, but regardless of how good Gorves is/can be, it is a step down for Smith full stop. Groves needs to fight someone in the mould of a Quigley first, because let's face it, Adamu was all over the place in their fight, and it didn't tell us anything we didn't know.
    I actually didn't defend the Mcdermott fight, but if it's going to happen, it's going to happen. I would be happy for Smith to be proving himself against the likes of Magee, or Stieglitz, but what has he got to prove against Groves?? Nothing as yet. A year down the line probably if Groves continues the way he is. Groves is just chancing it right now, calling out Smith, seeing if there is any bite there. He knows he would be lucky as **** to get a shot at the British this early in his career. Would he aqcuit himself well, yes. Would he win, IMO, no. He has not got enough miles on the clock to go into the trenches.
    By the way Rob have you surveyed EVERY boxing fan outside of Merseyside to come up with that ridiculous sweeping statement that no-one outside of Liverpool gives him a chance?
    I agree Quigley, Dilks or David are all fights i would prefer Smith to be in, but it hasn't happened.
    End of the day mate, if it was announced that Smith was fighting Abraham tomorrow, would i be worried, right now yes. If it was Groves would i be worried?? **** no. That's how i see it. Smoke that in your crack pipe
     
  11. robpalmer135

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    McDermott is a bigger step down than Groves. Just because he has had a small number of fights doesn't mean anything.

    Groves called him out. He wouldn't be very expensive, he brings the Commonwealth title to the table and is a bigger name and more sellable fight than McDermott. Sky would hype it up and Smith would get more respect from UK fans for winning it. Its a fight people want to see.

    Smith is ducking George Groves, end off.
     
  12. avidlemon

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    Rob, I don't doubt for a second that he would get more respect for fighting Groves.
    Smith will fight anyone to keep that belt. I am sure if it was Groves it would be like any other day at the office. But two guys who are poles apart in terms of experiance and are at different points in their careers, it just won't happen. It feels comfortable for people to say that Smith is ducking Groves, but Smith went after a harder fight in Magee, which to be fair Magee pulled out of, so i don't think you can really say that Smith is ducking anyone.
    Does he need the fight - no. Groves needs it more than him, hence why he is pushing the issue. Let's see how the land lies in a year.
     
  13. robpalmer135

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    If he couldnt get Magee it should of been Groves. As far apart as Groves and Smith are in expirience, its insignificant to how far Smith and McDermott are in ability level. If the fight goes beyond 8 rounds, you will know your boy Smith is going nowhere. Trust me Groves would spark McDermott in 4 rounds.
     
  14. avidlemon

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    To be honest Rob, if anything, Smith has shwon that he can come on stronger against opponents as the distance goes on. And in reality, We don't know that about Groves, so it would be Groves going into the unknown. We know how Smith behave past round 8. He gets stronger, and will keep coming on, and not gas.
    Can you tell me why it should have been Groves? Groves would in all probability beat Mcdermott right now, and So would Smith. Groves has not been tested as yet in the pro's, and the harsh reality is that putting him in with Smith right now could be a huge mistake. Smith ain't no tin can, he is a worthy British champion who will hit Groves back. Let's be real Rob
     
  15. PaddyD1983

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    I know you're going to tar me with the Scouse bias brush Rob, but if the Magee fight didnt happen then Smith should have gone with someone like a Lee or Vera. Simply a name to put him on the WBO trail.

    If that didnt come off then he should have gone down the domestic route of either Groves or DeGale or, if he had shown any marked improvement, Quigley again. I said in another thread that I havent seen anything from Quigley to tell me that another fight would go any other way, so I dont see the point in that (and I'm a Quigley fan, not a Smith fan!). So, after exhausting Euro and World routes, he should have gone with Groves or DeGale. Them two and Anderson are the only domestic fights that make any sense. For me, Smith beats Anderson with ease. We havent seen DeGale fight anyone with arms yet, so that is aan unknown entity. Groves' performance over Adamu tells me that he's ready and I would have that fight 50/50. Either Groves steps up and we can get genuinely excited about a fantastic prospect, or Smith's experience pulls through and he takes the fight. I'd be genuinely surprised if either of them were stopped against each other.

    Long and short of it though, McDermott is a **** fight.