You are only at the surface buddy. PAC post DLH domination is BY FAR a more MARKETABLE and popular fighter PRE DLH domination. And the numbers clearly reflect that. Floyd accepted 50/50 b/c his opponent wanted to face him and that's what PAC gave him. Floyd created a way to get out of the fight with his demands that were based from allegations him and his team helped spread that were baseless and without merrit. hence creating the "nail in the coffin" during the initial round of negotiations. Floyd has control over whom he fights.....not bob or anyone else. If Floyd wants to fight Manny he will and he can. No matter what Bob relationship is with Floyd. Floyd is a shot caller.....So is Manny. At this level These two men can square off with or with out much interferance with their promotional outfits due to the magnitude of this fight. Floyd chooses to make this process difficutl for what ever reason. he won't come out and say it directly but he'll leave little doubt depending on how Friday goes. But I'm with you....I want to see the fight as well. So let's hope Floyd doesn't cause the 2nd round collapse in the negotiation process.
Man your first paragraph makes NO sense. Pac draws less no matter how you look at it. Dude please. Pac barely expected 50/50 the first fight. FMJ gave it to him to kick his ass. He still found a way to run by lying about the 14 day testing cut off then admitting it was real. He still fought Clottey though. So was it a joke when Tyson asked for it? PED accusations are a part of boxing. Get over it. All this BS Pac is pulling is weak. USADA drug testing. Take the test get whooped like the rest. Crack is cocaine. Lord knows how many folks on here and in life use coke. Quit trying to be cute with the crackhead jokes. Man your analysis is so bad. When they step in the ring remember I told you. You can't see skills. Imagine, you are like a person who picked Sonny Liston over Ali. You have no idea about greatness when you see it. You call a "fair fight" an obstacle? You like boxing?
Few things played a major role.....#1..... Floyd had just beated both men in pretty close fights or physically demanding Fights for Floyd's standards. And of course the economy was in its deepest recession for years on a world wide scale.. It's not exactly easy to sell a fight where the fighter just lost who was undefeated or coming off a lack luster performance even if it was very close.
Then tell Arum to shut the **** up and get out of the way. Arum hates hates floyd.Pacq fans don't know that or don't realize that.They only care that Pacq fights Top Rank tomato cans and makes Arum richer.Arum lucked up I guess.Pinoys don't give a damn about nothin'.I guess anybody would be that way if they didn't see themselves on TV.As a blackman I get that.But I also hate fake slave owners like Arum. I'm about to print up a FREE PACQ t-shirt.
Come no Charlie! All excuses boil down to Mayweather being a better fighter, attraction, businessman or some combination. I don't think I really understood the first paragraph. Wow. You just trapped yourself. Why in the world is Pac getting all these props when he is fighting losers? You just admitted that he is fighting guys who recently loss. Pac is a fraud man. You will see when the fight is made.
Exactly. FMJ isn't even the only fighter that Arum has frozen out! Leave Top Rank? Arum tries his best to end your career.
Look.....I'm not gonna question what you feel. You seem to have deep rooted feelings that Floyd is the best at everything and you could be right. But if Floyd is the better fighter why doesn't he jsut fight and stop with coming up with the obstacles that end up delaying his ability to prove it in the ring? If he's the better attraction why isn't he dominating a NON US fighter in Gate and PPV #'s? And if he's such a great business man....why oh why is Floyd Jr missing the big picture when it comes to what this fight will generate in terms of MONEY and Respect....WIN, LOSE, or DRAW? A smart business man would be doing what Manny is....and that's creating an atmosphere where there are little obstacles to prevent this fight from coming to fruition. Manny and Floyd have both fought guys who have lost in the past or recently lost but a lot can be said to how they dominate in their performances if anyone wants to question how the loss affected them. Manny isn't fighting loosers homie...he's fighting the same guys Floyd is. And Didn't floyd fight Shane who lost to Cotto? After all the debate about Marg and his warps why would Floyd fight a "Looser" and PAC face the man who beat shane? I'm not really buying into all that BS...I'm just giving you the same bull **** you are giving me. And I hope you know how stupid it sounds... IF.....IF the fight gets made. I hope you can hop on the horn and talk some sen$e into Floyd.
wow your posts are bull****, us guys are tryimg to talk sense reasonably on here lets talk business, when coming to negotiations about the split children we use ppvs. ok next step what we can do is use several methods of who deserves more 1. add up all ppvs generated over entire career and see who comes out with more winner floyd 2. add up ppvs with common opponents i.e. hatton oscar. winner floyd 3. go off of the last fights ppv numnbers i.e 700k to 1.4 mill winner flloyd what is so hard to understand that
The only reason why you "think" it's bull**** is b/c you got a head full of bull**** that you spew everytime you decide to project what is in that pea brain head of yours.:verysad Nah homie....it's not all about PPV#'s when it comes to negotiating the split sweet heart. it's a wide variety of elements that come into play during negotiating a split. No one cares about who you faught 3 yrs ago or how much you made 5 fights before or how many PPV numbers you DID. This is boxing and the sooner you understand the sport and the business the sooner you stop being considered a mental midget. YOU ARE ONLY AS GOOD AS YOUR LAST FIGHT...that includes who you fought, how you performed and the generation of revenue for the fight. Going off the last PPV numbers surely favor Floyd but when the roles and the shoes were on the other Foot.....we didn't see PAC acting in a way that indicated he didn't want to make the fight reality. PAC GAVE floyd 50/50 when his PPv #'s where better against LEVEL oppostion in terms of Popularity.....Not like comparing Shane's marketability to Josh's. Which the #'s clearly reflect. But Floyd is the cause of the initial break down of the fight back in March and also for the potential break down of the fight at present. From baseless allegations to special blood testing demands to now all the sudden the purse split. If it ain't one excuse for Floyd not to do his ****ing job it's anther. KNOW YOUR ROLE MONEY! You're a fighter FIRST! Act like it.
Websters dictionary: Negotiating: to confer with another so as to arrive at the settlement of some matter. Arum isnt confering anything. Arum is giving a deadline. i dont see how thats negotiatiing? Not like Arum is saying: How about till mid July for an answer? FMJ: How about late July? It requires dialouge between two people. Arum isnt looking for an agrement on a deadline. He just gave it without negotioating w/ FMJ on it.
At that point, Pac was coming from a 1.25 million PPV with Cotto while May was coming from a 1 million PPV with Marquez. I don't think you can say that Pac barely expected 50/50. He should have not even agreed with the 50/50 but he did to make the fight happen. Also, there was no 14-day precedence. It was eventually revealed that the blood test precedent was 24 days as was confirmed later by NSAC. And you should look in the dictionary at the meaning of the word "lie".