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  1. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Why you always make it about race :hey
     
  2. You are correct. There is no blood test for EPO, which is the most popular PED amongst cyclists.
     
  3. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You debate the facts as you see them, not necessarily how they exist (when discussing Mayweather, anyway). There are different ways to interpret everything. For example, the steroid accusation, maybe Mayweather knows that Pac is clean yet sees it as a way to gain a mental advantage going into the fight. Games like this have been a part of boxing for decades. ****, even Roach said that the reason why they wouldn't fight Cotto at 147 and insisted on a catchweight was to gain a mental advantage. I understand that steroid accusations and catchweights are not the same but do you see GSP crying or suing anybody? He's getting accused more than Pac. He simply shruggs it off and says he is clean and will take any test they want. Why is Pac so sensitive? Could it be that he hasn't exactly handled things properly?

    Why are you so disgusted and thus trying to act as the moral high ground for what is good and bad for boxing? You're taking things way too seriously IMO.

    No, you don't lie nor claim anything that hasn't been reported. I was kidding about the Samski comparison (just trying to bust your balls).
     
  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    No not if he's worth more and doesn't like the conditions. Especially when he could go down the street and make close to 75K around 60K to be exact.:deal
     
  5. In the context of the analogy he actually went down the street and made 100k. But he made it from a company who had previously admitted to mugging and robbing rich old women to pay its employees and it was desperate for labor.
     

  6. Some people have adverse reactions to having blood drawn - I'm one of them. GSP probably feels he could perform at 100% after giving blood and Pacquiao doesn't.
     
  7. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    The whole steroid thing really gets me because I HATE when people lie about other people to ruin their credibility.

    That **** was all over the navy, and it made me sick to my stomach.
    If you're going to claim something about someone, especially that they are a cheater, and you have absolutely no evidence except you think it's a possibility, that is shameful.

    You don't even deserve to be a top level athlete in any sport if you can't even acknowledge the people around you who are keeping your sport relevant.
    Floyd does boxing a big disservice when he tries to manipulate the landscape in his own favor.

    I'm the GOAT! That guy is on roids! That guy is on roids! That guy beat washed up guys! That guy is a D level fighter! I can't get a fair break! No one gives me the proper respect! I am better than anyone else who ever lived!

    Will you fight them and prove it?

    No, because if I beat them no one will care.


    How absurd is this reasoning? Why is it okay to let this dude not fight the best fighters over his lame ass arguments?

    If he doesn't want to fight, get the **** out of the sport and let someone else establish themselves in the top spot. The sport does not need a glass ceiling of a guy claiming he is the best and then retiring/cherry picking. It hurts the entire sport.

    What if Ali came back and said he wouldn't fight joe frazier because he was a paper title bum? What if he demanded 60/40 against frazier I and foreman?

    This type of "i'm better than everyone else look at my ppv numbers with other big stars" **** is KILLING boxing in the media.
     
  8. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Did you even read what he said, you ****ing idiot???

    "not if he's worth more"

    crax: "3 times what he is worth"
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Exactly and that's what I've been trying to tell people here with my first post in this thread. Pac hasn't done anything new here but agree to old terms 50/50 split and 14 days from the fight for testing that was proposed back in January the conditions have now moved into PBF's favor and he must now comply with PBF's demands since he's now in the driver's seat. The guy isn't willing to take less even when it's proven he's the lesser draw and he won't move on random blood testing until the fight. This is nothing more than typical Arum propaganda and it's the reason why he's the biggest snake and POS in boxing.
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    PBF-Mosley did 1.4 million buys which was more than any PPV that Pac has ever been apart of including his fight with Oscar.:deal PBF has done more than enough to merit a bigger share he's beaten Pac in PPV buys with common opponents and with different ones. He's clearly the bigger draw and is entitled to the larger share of the purse.
     
  11. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why do you Pacquiao has just agreed to what was discussed in the last negotiations? Do you have any proof of this?
     
  12. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :yep:deal
     
  13. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Actually from what I read they allowed Nevada to decide, and Nevada said 20 days from the fight... so pac did agree to testing, while Floyd was expecting Nevada to agree with the terms he insisted upon...
    Now the Nevada threw out potential health hazards involing that kind of testing up to the fight. and basicly said a 20 day limit from the fight is sufficent enough, Floyds method backfired... so its not like Manny agreed to the demands of Floyd he agreed to allow Nevada to render a decision which they have and its not to Floyds liking...
    So basicly Floyd shot himself in the foot by suggesting the NSAC decide how the testing is to be done.
     
  14. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why? You chime in to add.. :blood

    Sure they are just like any lab/organization that does any testing procedure. Everyone has interests and conflicts in those interests. The question is if they are the leading authority on testing? Yes. Can they get the job done with a high level of objectivity and professionalism? Yes. So what is the problem you seem to have? Somebody has to do the damned testing right?

    Ugh... We all know the testing is too expensive to do for all fights. This is why Pac's teams request to have the NSAC change the rules was complete crap. Cost is a non issue in a fight of this magnitude. So your point is? $20k is too much to invest in the biggest fight ever at WW?

    It isn't about what they were caught with. It is about the "best" testing protocol. In all cases that INCLUDES random blood sampling. So again your point is?
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Because of what Arum said by saying they agreed to a 50/50 split. There's no way in hell PBF agreed to a 50/50 split and has gone on record saying he would never do it, especially after his success with the Mosley fight. Arum also never states how close to the fight the testing is to be done. Only saying they agreed to PBF's terms which we all know is bull****.