Oleg Maskaev vs. Jerry Quarry

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  1. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    Why not?

    A prime Maskaev stands 6'3" weighs about 240 solid Lbs. and has a reach of 79". He's big, he's strong, and he has power in both hands. He was well conditioned but his chin was not one of the best I've seen in recent years. He was stopped seven times (once age 39, once age 40). Let's look closer-

    LKOby1 McCall (in his 7th pro fight) 1996
    LKOby11 Tua (good fight, in his 12th pro fight) 1997

    He went undefeated from late '97 - late '00. During this stretch he beat among others-

    Alex Stewart KO7
    Booker T. Word KO4
    Courage Tshabalala KO9
    Hasim Rahman KO8
    Derrick Jefferson KO4

    He lost two in a row, LKOby4 Kirk Johnson (2000) and LKOby2 Lance Whitacker (2001). He came back with two KO wins then was stopped in 8 by Corey Sanders (2002). Whitacker and Sanders were giants in the ring and Johnson was a pretty big guy as well (who could also box very well).

    He went undefeated from 2003 - early 2008. He beat mostly lower level guys but did manage to pick up the WBC HW Belt by stopping Hasim Rahman (KO12) in their rematch. He made one successful defense then lost the title to Sam Peter (LKOby6) at age 39.

    So, can he beat a prime Quarry?

    A prime Quarry is 6' with a 72' reach and about 200Lbs. It would look like a man vs. a boy in the ring... but that doesn't always determine the winner.

    As bad as Maskaev's chin looked vs. some of the fighters he faced... I really don't think his chin would be an issue vs. Quarry. McCall, Tua, Johnson, Sanders, Whitacker, Peter, and even Nagy Aguilera (Maskaev's last opponent, LKOby1) are huge compared to Quarry. Like it or not but many times... size matters, especially if someone knows how to use their size.

    Vs. McCall, Maskaev was very green.

    Vs. Tua he surprised many by giving Tua trouble thru 10+ rounds of the scheduled 12 rounder. Just an example of how he improved after the loss to McCall.

    So, the fight?

    Discuss-
     
  2. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    You've made a very thorough case.

    Still, Quarry KO1 Maskaev.
     
  3. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jerry by UD likely he will have him down in the fight.
     
  4. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree.
    I agree.
     
  5. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I own lotsa' **** here on these dude's................ No way Quarry KO's Mask early....... No way.......... This is a toss-up........ Whoever is in top form and focused wins....... Mask has poor whiskers, but Quarry owned toilet tissue for skin........ All that being factored in, spells "Toss-Up."

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  6. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Not quite sure why the thread starter is selling Oleg because of his size and the size of his opponents. Does he not know anything about Quarry's career except his height and reach? Sorry, this is a very poorly constructed argument.

    Meet some of Quarry's scalps:

    Buster Mathis:

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    Ron Lyle:
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    Earnie Shavers:

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  7. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Quarry would have cracked this guy's skull.
     
  8. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    Yeah , Quarry gets talked about around here (by some) like he is an all-time great... I really don't understand. Anyway, like I've said many times-

    Quarry was very tough, had a good chin and plenty of heart. He was a decent overall fighter but no techniacl wizard. He had a pretty decent workrate.

    He wasn't super fast and his footwork wasn't a thing of beauty. He wasn't a defensize wizard or very elusive at all. He wasn't a huge puncher, wasn't a wizard at cutting the ring off, and wasn't a great finisher.


    Maskaev is far from great but at his best he was a very big and strong, well conditioned puncher with a decent workrate. At his best he lasted until the 11th round vs. a prime Tua. He took good shots from Rahman in both of their fights without going down and eventually stopped Rahman both times (KO8 and KO12). 36-7 (27) overall and 2-1 (1) in HW World title fights.

    He outboxed Corey Sanders for 7 rounds. In the 8th round Sanders dropped Maskaev twice and stopped him. Sanders wasn't great but he was fair and he was huge... 6'6" with an 81" reach and fairly solid at over 300Lbs (312 for his fight with Oleg). Sanders entered the fight at 22-6 and was at his best for this fight.

    I don't see a smallish, average punching HW like Quarry being able to hurt Maskaev enough to make a major difference.

    Maskaev by decision! Quarry is bloody but not bloody enough to force a stoppage.
     
  9. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    This fight would be like the Shavers blowout, except that Oleg didn't have Earnies set of whiskers and would have suffered the fate of Jack Bodell. No, Quarry wasn't a great, but guys like Maskaev were his meat...hell, when is someone going to do a "ko'ed by" vid of Maskaev? No way in hell he makes it past the 1st round with Quarry.
     
  10. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    I would totally watch a video of Maskaev's best KO's... KO8 and KO12 Rahman and KO4 Jefferson are good KO wins. Some of his KOs over lower level guys were pretty intense as well.
     
  11. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes, he had some good ko wins, and I especially appreciate his two ko's over Rahman...but the guy was brutally ko'ed several times in his career..and don't think for a minute that he would have survived a prime, young Jerry Quarry..give Jerry his due..he lost to the best, and had the misfortune to have Ali and Frazier to be a contemporary of..a Maskaev, esp a fragile chinned Maskaev wouldn't last the 1st round.
     
  12. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    I guess Mac Foster, Shavers, and Ron Lyle are no Oleg. :roll:

    Worst thread ever...well, there's been some bad Marciano ones.
     
  13. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Jerry Quarry would eat Maskaev for breakfast and spit out his bones. One sided Slaughter. Quarry is very underrated. He is arguably a top 25 heavyweight of all time. Style wise, Maskaev's slow robotic slugger stance fits perfect for Jerry. Jerry had trouble with slicksters.


    Quarry KO 5
     
  14. Pusnuts

    Pusnuts Active Member Full Member

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    Quarry would have TKOd him IMO, Oleg too slow but it would have been a decnet fight
     
  15. Sister Sledge

    Sister Sledge Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oleg always loses to guys who can take his punch. Quarry would take him. Oleg lost to Corry "T-Rex" Sanders, who, while huge, was no world-beater.