Duranimal has you quaking in your Scottish boots, Popkins. :good I dare you to quote him and go on one of your self indulgent rants...go on.
But you said that you thought what he did at 130lbs was actually better? I don't think a defeat undoes all of his previous work, I look at their victories and compare opposition and the manner in which the wins came about. I give the edge to Tyson...if we're talking strictly what he did pre-prison in comparison to what Floyd achieved as a Super featherweight. Tyson would struggle to make my top 80.
No, you're definitely not. Fighter's sometimes with that short blistering peak get this sort of crazed luster. It's not just Duran, though. I'm probably one of the rare few that pick Basilio to beat Duran at welterweight. I rank Duran like #5 based on just his skills and H2H though.
Well i got to disagree, i think it's tight and then you have Tyson losing to Buster Douglas which edges it for Floyd for me. Even with the performances being looked at, it's not like i'm going to give more credit to Tyson because he was more aggressive or some ****, i look at effectiveness, and both were winning in amazing fashion, Tyson with the excitement factor, Floyd hardly losing rounds. Then Tyson got destroyed by Buster Douglas, whereas Floyd came nowhere remotely close to losing.
I'll be ****ing telling for every excuse Duran has not only fabricated in his own mind...but a whole generation of delusional blue collar fight fans minds too. Which is to say....until the sun rises and sets.
Floyd lost a couple of rounds to Jesus Chavez. I think he looked pretty mortal in that fight. Ultimately he pulled it out and it goes down as a good, convincing win, but there were some uncomfortable moments in there for PBF. As Larry Merchant notes in the commentary, it appeared like a kind of defeat for Floyd because he tried to fight Chavez a certain way and he was unsuccessful, and had to resort to fighting on the move. Now obviously losing a couple of rounds is nothing really, it doesn't mean Floyd wasn't a great superfeather, he was, but I don't see him as untouchable at that weight the way I saw, say Roy Jones in his short stint at smw. I'd go with Tyson over the sfw Floyd. Not much in it mind.
I'm not saying he's unbeatable or anything Popkins. I'm not saying there aren't fighters in history that wouldn't beat him, that's where people get confused, when am i saying that or being a nut-hugger? I'm just oberving what actually occurred in his career. I've seen the Chavez fight, it's a good win, and if we're saying that him looking mortal in a fight is going to detract from what i'm saying of him then i think that's silly. My point on him and Tyson stands, disagree if you want, i'm happy to disagree, i'm just not happy with bias and bull****.