Paul Smith and Carl Dilks war of words

dONT TELL ME when i can get pissed off :hi:

rob im only jesting mate,i just thought it was quite funny .you do see to be on a one man quest to fix boxing ,im sure you think you are doing right but just remeber boxers are people too

 

With all due respect I know why Paul is not answering the question cos it'll just lead to more questions and also why should he give Groves more publicity off his back, I know first hand that promoters decide exactly what fights are gonna happen and when, Just look at me against Ovil McKenzie?? Him and his manager agreed to fight me before he fought Billy Boyle only for his promoter Frank Maloney to pull him out!! This is just 1 example of how Im trying to show that the promoter is the one in the driving seat.

I personally have tried saying I'll box anyone at 175 and while I know no fighter is personally scared of me I also know it's either there promoter or manager that is directing them away from me, Put the right amount of money in front of Paul and I'll guarentee he fights Groves at the drop of a hat.. Groves also knows it's not easy to make, Just tell me when Frank has sat down round a table with a rival promoter when a double world title fight is not involved?? I really can't remember??

All this talk of Groves means nothing, Paul fights who his matchmaker picks just as Groves does.. Like I've said before it's the promoters in the driving seats so people who are moaning at the fighters for it not happening are moaning at the wrong people

 

so what are you trying to say ?You are ducking ovil ?

 

Well, perhaps they should start working together more often if that's the case.

Fighters need to take more control over their own careers too - like they do in the States - YOU are the one getting punched in the face, YOU should be telling HIM what to do.

I'll cite your example - Maloney as promoter of McKenzie should be acting in the interests of his Client..... surely by refusing a fight with you (and doing nothing in the interim period) he wasn't doing so?

Should McKenzie have a right of veto, because otherwise it's the tail wagging the dog?

 

I agree Beeston, Ovil wanted the fight and Maloney took it away from him, When you sign a contract you are basically at the promoters descretion..

I will say what I have said on numerous occasions,

THE BOARD NEED TO PUT OUT 2 ELIMINATORS AT EACH WEIGHT EVERY MONTH.

This will make fights happen and also take it out of the promoters hands if needed too, It could also mean better paydays for fighters as the purse bids will be of decent proportion if Im right??:good

 

That is a good idea.:good

 

I'd have thought Maloney would have welcomed a % of McKenzie's career high payday :yep

The board should have rankings, and for a voluntary defence the champion must select a fighter that is.....

1. In the top 3 in the division
2. Won his last fight - world title challenges excepted

Obviously this can become cloudy when someone holds the Commonwealth title.... but they don't impose mandatories all that often and usually they are eligible for the British anyway.

There is enough depth within most divisions here to lay down the above as a basic criteria. We've seen some really good fights for titles that were risks from both men such as Moore vs Rhodes - that should be a regular occurence rather than a once a year :yikes thing!

 

That fight only happenend mate cos Paul became mandatory contender for Quigleys title and Frank won the purse bids..:good

 

Yes I support this but when you beat someone there eliminated and to be fair Watson has had promotional problems, Maybe an eliminator in every division each month would be fair, The losers of each elimination should fight each other and the winners of each one get put to purse bids.. What ya think??

 

I have to say I completly agree with Smith on this. To come on an internet forum, as Dilks did, and call out fighters is just childish and pathetic.

 

Agree with Smith here to be honest. Dilks needs to get active but I personally do feel he deserves a shot at Groves considering they had a deal and Groves backed out to take on Adamu. If not Groves then Dilks-Mendy would be a natural fight to make.

 

Very true words and the fans know this but you'll find that we want the fighter to have his say - talk to his promoter, keep telling the press who he wants, fight the best etc etc