The reason Roberto Duran Quit

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  1. Jorodz

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    he did and for that SRL should get a ton of credit.
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    Objective achieved :thumbsup
     
  3. Jorodz

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    :tong but duran knocked out a horse and srl didn't
     
  4. JohnThomas1

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    :lol:

    Kudo's

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  5. duranimal

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    Come-on JT i'd expect this from MAG........I find that using the description of peak tends to be & is used as a bit of a cop out escape clause when ever the Montreal fight is brought up by certain SRL fans....Not you i should add.

    When Leonard beat Benitez then that was the day he had well & truly arrived & the fact he was beaten by Duran is hardly a black mark or a disgrace is it, Leonard fought like a demon till the last second & it took a 71 fight lunatic demented driven performence of skill & aggression that only another fistic great like Duran could produce............What is Leonards peak??? Of course he was:deal He was a young super fit professional athlete who had been groomed for the top & 24 years of age....

    it's extreamly unlikely a novice could overcome Benitez don't you think so!!!:huh Of course he was at his peak in Montreal & if you applied this too his somewhat tentitive New Orleans showing & then 9 months later against Hearns where he was getting comprehensivly outboxed & marked up & over todays 12 he would have lost you could make the assumption that he was on the slide could'nt you. As that always seems to be the case today in that a fighter loses once & he's on the slide which you & i know is nonsence.

    Imagine if the Duran & Hearns fights had been 12 rounds & that means he would have lost 2 big ones & you'd get plenty of todays mug mug media commentator's saying his a nearly man, another flawed over hyped olympian ect ect.which of course is absolute rubbish but it's a micro fine line of a tightrope between immotality & derision......... But at the top are always a clutch of athletes cut from the same mould. Back then 30 years ago the divisions were stacked with top class fighters unlike today where the Mayweathers of this world can safely navigate their way to the riches of cronus while avoiding the elite fighters of their division....Not so with Leonard & the rest.....you had to be at your peak to challenge & defend the title against such stiff & capable adversaries back then.

    How on earth can anyone say that a champion such as SRL was not at his peak against the likes of Benitez/Duran & Hearns........only 90% of the ****in idiots on ESB could come up with that ignorant deluded crap:lol:

    You're obviously part of the 10% unless you state otherwise:smoke

    It takes a GREAT 2 BEAT a GREAT:deal
     
  6. SLAKKA

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    Hey duranamal
    are u aware roberto never said cramps at any time place period end.
    Freddie brown made it up spur of the moment as cover story.
     
  7. MAG1965

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    He quit because Ray was humiliating him and starting to land hard bodypunches and head punches, and Duran knew he might be stopped.
     
  8. itrymariti

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    :lol:
     
  9. timmers612

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    Its as educated a thought on the matter as has ever been posted. Roberto simply wasn't ready to fight that night.
     
  10. timmers612

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    Leonard was closing in on his peak against Wilfredo although Benitez lack of sharp conditioning leaves the view on that a little in doubt. Despite lacking speed he could have had in better shape and with a fight long cut, Wilfredo made Srl look like a windmill at times with so many missed right hands. A few bouts down the road SR may have feinted more and missed fewer of those right hand leads,,,not quite at his peak here.
     
  11. duranimal

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    Sure:yep Look at the end of the day he let himself down & all of us who followed him & the boxing public as a whole......many reason's some true some false all came to a head when he just "Blew up"........none of us know or can even remotly understand what went through his head at that moment & to be honest as we now know that he did'nt give a **** anyway.......i'll defy anyone to deny the fact that as men when hav'nt we made a rash decision when the adrenilin is pumping that we'd sell our souls to the devil to turn back the clock.

    30 years on this fight has been twisted all out of preportion to what the actuall attitude & public responce of the day was........30 years ago it was met with bewiderment & numbing silence by mostly everyone....regardless of who you followed & it did't really affect Duran's standing in the world as he was allready atop boxings MT Olympus.....The papers over here mostly gave both fighters a negative press & demanded that all re-match clauses be banned as the public viewed this fight as a dead-on FIX which also cast aspertions unfairly onto Leonard.....but the attitude towards Duran never changed one iota as he was always viewed as a phychtic nutcase so him chucking his hands in the air & telling Leonard to **** off was'nt exactly out of character in the boxing public's eyes as his whole demeaner was that of a violent don't give a **** anti authoritarion nutter & societies law's in general never applied to Duran.........An Example was his beard which he was meant to shave off but never did unless he wanted too....he recieved a letter of reprimand from the WBC about his beard in the mid 70's so he just **** into it & through it at the WBC rep.....that's Roberto Duran:bbb

    Everyone was just wanting a reason WHY WHY WHY & at the end of the day who the **** was going to up to his face & call him a coward.........NO ONE....& within two & a half years he was packing out MSG against Davey Moore then into a SuperFight with Hagler........with everyone behind him........I think this fight in New Orleans turned him into a human being & with all the faults & frailties that go with it in the eyes of the boxing world........It was such a shocking act of self-humiliated that only he could redeem & i think we all agree he did it in style & was the last man standing out of the fab 4........:D
     
  12. KnockOutArtist

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    I think Leonard was at his physical peak, but up to the first Duran fight, he could fight another opponent's fight and still win. After the first Duran fight is when I believe Leonard developed more of his ring savvy that helped carry the day against Duran, later Hearns, Hagler, etc.

    So while I won't go as far as saying Leonard was pre-prime, I do think that he learned a lot from the fight that helped him to become a more complete fighter and greater H2H threat.
     
  13. timmers612

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    I may not like your more trashy posts, but I have to give you credit also, what you wrote here really can't be improved on about this subject.
     
  14. duranimal

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    Wilfredo was'nt called El Radar for nothing.

    When did leonard peak then & how long did it last? as in did it end with him being outboxed by Hearns less than 2 years after he beat Benitez, did he peak against Bonds & Kaluli then slip 3 months later.
     
  15. duranimal

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    Thank You:D I'll make a more concentrated effort too moniter my sugar levels on a more diciplined basis:smoke