The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haha, what Floyd can't speak for himself no more?
     
  2. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Mosley was tested after 18 days you idiot! They never tested his blood after 18 days but the still did the urine! The whole point is that Mosley knew that at any time up until the fight they could still come and test his blood! You can even see on 24/7 when they showed up when he was getting ready to head to Vegas the week of the fight! Don't let Bob Arum get you all gassed up! I like both fighter and Floyd will beat Pac but if you ask me Manny never turned down the 14 day cut off the first time. Bob Arum turned it down and then he come out with a bull**** deadline and conference call saying how he never talked to Golden Boy or anyone from Mayweathers team yet a month ago he said that he and Golden Boy were having smooth negotiations
     
  3. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Thanks for proving my point, dumb ****.

    18 days was good enough vs an actual cheater then 14 vs a guy never even remotely close to being a known cheater is superb.

    But Floyd hasn't said **** about it, only Jeff has, so we need to wait and see.
     
  4. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First of all...I appreciate the intelligent response. Some of these other clown's responses tell me they are dumb. Anyway...

    So, what you are telling me is that what Pac wants should trump what Floyd wants, then? You can't have it both ways. Floyd was OK with the testing he and SSM did, because, he let the EXPERTS determine the cutoff. Pac wanted to manipulate the cutoff. There is a difference. I don't see what's unclear about that. Money aside...where the competition itself was concerned, he took a reasonable stance, and stuck to it. So, why is it cowardly from him to take that stance and not budge? But, when Pac decides to counteroffer, and not budge, it's not cowardly?
     
  5. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Nope, I think Pac is providing a reasonable window where he will, for whatever weird reason, be clean for the fight and have no excuses of blood loss.

    The last 2 weeks before a fight are sparring and the wind down of training camp.

    He also agreed to give blood immediately following the fight.

    He also agreed to give unlimited urine, which shows symptoms of any doping he would be doing to his blood, or any steroid he is taking.

    Blood is effective in drug testing when it's taken multiple times and used for comparative analysis over a long period of time to track the changes.

    There is nothing Pac could take that won't be at least a red flag in urine (almost half of which is dead blood cells) and effective enough in a 10-11 day time span to actually provide any benefit.

    Mind you, he is giving blood after the fight, so anything in his system for the fight would be in it afterwards, obviously.


    Unless there is some super drug only detectable by urine and doesn't need to be in your system for the actual fight, what's the panic over?
     
  6. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then prove me wrong.
     
  7. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    But I also thinks it's stupid for manny to put the cut-off date in, considering what we all know about the testing during the SSM/FMJ fight and 24/7.
     
  8. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    No one spoke to the Mayweathers or Ellerbe
     
  9. Interceptor

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    Shane didn't have a cut-off date foolish one.

    The last test just happened to be 18 days out

    Shane didn't even know it would be his last test.
     
  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    There was no cut off against Mosley for all Mosley knew he could be tested anytime in those last 18 days, hence the difference

    Obviously you'll ignore this
     
  11. Interceptor

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    Pacturds shouldn't mention excuses.

    "I'm so scared of needles"

    "He's bigger than me..he has more bloods":lol:

    "I'm weak when blood is drawn.."

    **** outta' here complaining about excuses.:deal
     
  12. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    No I won't, because it's irrelevant.

    What drug can you take for 10 days and see any results that is only detectable by blood and won't have to be in your system at the time of an actual event?

    Why are you ignoring the unlimited random urine and the post fight blood test?
     
  13. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    epo for 1 and its 14days not 10. Why do you think athletics depand random blood testing with no cut off?
     
  14. leighton

    leighton Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Never going to happend this fight. Money looking for blood while Pacs team talk **** for the last 4 weeks. To be fair I cant see how Pac has held onto his power from moving up the weights like he has done. Compare Maywheater who done the same thing and up to light welterweight he was Koing a good few fighters. Since then his only KO has been against Hatton. Yes he speed is still there but not his power.
    As for Pac he has KO both Cotto and Hatton made Golden Boy retire on in his corner but since the first fight and the drugs testing we have seen Pac v Clottey which seemed to me that Pac was missing something from those preformaces before maybe it was a bad night or maybe Money was right about Pac about drugs and he didnt use anything.
     
  15. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    i want a blood test. 14 days cut-off. no i want a full blood-test since you accepted 14 days. i want a 60% split. i want to fight in vegas. i want my name first and to come-out last. i want a circus for my ring walk. i want testing between rounds as well if pac accepts all of my demands.

    ****ing fight now mr. primadonna.
     
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