The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

EPO changes your red blood cell count, detectable in urine.


next?

Also, would be detectable in a blood test immediately following a fight.

 

No there hasn'tatsch

 

Blood count - wouldn't that be more detectable in blood

Various steroids/HGH can be taken and be out the system within a few hours

Ignored the question too didn't you, you fraud, why does athletics demand random blood testing with no cut off? Its because its easy to beat the system with a cut off

 

Are you sure about that? I mean, are you sure about what you've, basically, stated about the 2 weeks leaving NO ROOM for doping of any kind, that would be effective. It's, basically, your word against the head of the USADA's. Would you bet your house on that? It's obvious you've done some research. And that's good. We've all increased out knowledge of PED's, due to this ordeal.

However, since no one is more knowledgeable than the experts, who themselves, can't even agree on this, what's the issue with covering all the bases? Meaning...what's the issue with leaving no room for doubt?

Manny's stance is, actually, more technical than Floyd's, on this. Manny wanted to determine the cutoff, as well as how much blood would be taken..."just enough to test". If they both just let the experts do their jobs, there'd be no issue, right? If they are both taking an HIV test, I'm sure, they don't tell the doctors how to do it.

Now, if Pac said..."OK, let's do the testing, your way, but, you gotta budge on the split man (not in those exact words, necessarily), and Floyd was not willing to make ANY concessions, I'd say Floyd is CLEARLY ducking.

 

Which ones?

And how effective are they in a period of 2 weeks?



You're acting like the last 2 weeks of training are the most important, they are the LEAST important.

The first month of getting in shape is going to be the most tested and most important part.

Any person who has ever worked out in their life will tell you how little a 10 day period is to achieve anything.

HGH for 10 days? Are you ****ing serious?

A 10 day steroid program??

One that won't cause an effect in your urine????

Get the **** out of here. You've never worked out a day in your life.

 

The nevada athletic commission ruled, with experts, that urine was sufficient.

Also, medical experts already addressed the issue during the 1st negotiations and informed floyd that he was safe even with a 21 day cut off.

 

Punisher,

Please note this is the non 'clown' you are currently engaging (link) :

 

At least I can be critical of floyd.... I wish you had the same courage.


Your post history = no compliments towards pacquiao and no criticism of floyd mayweather jr.

Check mine for criticisms and compliments of both.

 

Now let's see you be critical of Manny:hey

 

You were just in the PW thread.

I am arguing against his fans right now.

 

It's the Nevada Commission's, and your, word against the USADA's. Again, the experts cannot even agree on this. And when it comes down to it, the issue is the RANDOMNESS of the test, not the frequency. Pac is not supposed to be comfortable about when testing will or will not occur. It's the element of surprise, that makes it legitimate. The determination of when blood or urine samples should be taken, should be left up to the experts. It does not matter whether the USADA is doing the test, the NSAC, or any other accredited agency. The athletes do not need to know when the test will STOP, except when they get in the ring of course. That seems to be most effective, in deterring cheating.

 

Athletes can get a bigger—and illegal—boost by injecting themselves with erythropoietin (EPO), a hormone that stimulates RBC production. A urine test for artificial EPO was introduced in 1997, but it's not foolproof; while testable traces of artificial EPO disappear from an athlete's body within four days, the hormone's effects are strongest three weeks after injection.

here is the link for the info http://www.slate.com/id/2107096

 

Who is the USADA??

A non-profit organization?

 

So 3 weeks after the injection, which would be a week after the fight were he to take it the first day available.

Also, were it in his system, the immediate post fight blood test wouldn't catch it?

 

LOL...

Looks like his stance has changed a bit, though. So, he could be on the road to Damascus. He's free to have his opinion. I just want to know, why Floyd is considered a coward, for taking an informed stance, and sticking to it. And Manny is not considered a coward, for doing the same.