The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If he has not agreed? You still refuse to accept this even though the truth is all around you? Why? Go to 12:40.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl8btb5pBMo&feature=related[/ame]


    There is no negotiating this point. Mayweather negotiated it before and Arum lied and killed the fight. Nobody is going to spend months in negotiations for Arum to lie again. Especially when Arum has a stable of "Plan B's" to fall back on and Mayweather will be left looking dumb like he almost was before.

    The entire Olympic Boxing program uses this form of testing. There is a reason.
     
  2. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    they demanded floyd pay ten millin pound per pound over weight because they fought that he loved money too much and would say no

    pac hasnt tested for drugs before because blood he give in the past is to test for disease

    not drugs
     
  3. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    I'm the most objective hater out there.

    I give props where they are due, but I do not defend 1 set of boxers over other ones. Be it by race or country or style of boxing.
     
  4. UltimateOllie

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    Many athletes don't like giving blood. And personally I don't really like the thought of it either. However, Olympic athletes don't have a choice so they are mentally prepared for it. Pacquiao on the other hand is a professional boxer, and therefore has never had to be subjected to it (on a regular basis). Also, he took a blood test right before the 1st Morales fight and said afterwards that he felt weaker and that his punches lacked power. I can see why he wouldn't want to feel like that in the biggest fight of his life.
     
  5. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wrong. He didn't make the catch weight but the fight was at WW and had a clause to compensate JMM for it. So it has never happened in the past as Mayweather has always met the contracted WW limit. That won't stop you from making this up as you go along though now will it?

    Mayweather Jr. never said he did. He just said if you WANT a fight with me then you need to submit to USADA random blood testing. So now the question is does Pac want the fight or doesn't he? He says he wants it. He knows what to do. For some strange reason he keeps doing the opposite of what he needs to do. Why?

    Actually I am knocking your points down pretty effectively.
     
  6. JasonChaos27

    JasonChaos27 Active Member Full Member

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    Really? Boxers dont submit to drug tests?
     
  7. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1. How could he possibly test positive when he has never been appropriately tested? Current drug testing in boxing is, by all accounts and beyond dispute, an absolute pathetic joke. It does not work.

    2. Current drug testing in boxing doesn't work. Floyd is at a point in his career where he's generating enough money that if he's going to get in the ring, he wants as level a playing field as possible, and he wants to be sure that this is the case.

    3. It's not plausible to be used in every single fight, as it stands.

    4. To ensure a level playing field.
     
  8. JasonChaos27

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    Ha right. It didnt happen. Slip it right under the rug. You ****ing tool. Exactly, I made it up. You said it yourself. They had an agreed upon weight, Mayweather didnt make it, then changed it at the last minute and compensated marquez with money. So that means it didnt happen?

    You arent knocking **** down...you're spinning it around blind to the truth like a shitty politician.

    But ok, lets play you're game for a second. Just as Mayweather said, you want to fight me, agree to the drug testing. Pac said ok, ill agree to 14 days, if you want to fight me, take it or leave it. So by that logic, I assume Floyd doesnt want the fight?
     
  9. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    so in breaking down your post, seems to me that you are saying it is ok for normal atheletes to give blood, are you saying that boxers arent atheletes now as a way to justfiy why pac wotn take blood?

    obviously he made excuses also in the fight with morales

    he also said that he had the wrong socks on and wrong gloves

    do you think that the wrong gloves and wrong socks are justifying reasons as to why he lost that night.

    the point is he lost to the better man on that night.
     
  10. boni1980

    boni1980 Member Full Member

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    no you stay in school dimwit
     
  11. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "I'm not interested in rushing to do anything... I'm not really thinking about boxing right now," he said. "I'm just relaxing. I fought about 60 days ago [against Shane Mosley], so I'm just enjoying myself, enjoying life, enjoying my family and enjoying my vacation."


    Do you consider this a duck? Both sides were in negotiation.

    Please vote.
     
  12. JasonChaos27

    JasonChaos27 Active Member Full Member

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    Ok, fair enough. But why start with pac? Why not with De La Hoya, or Hatton. Gatti? Judah?....Why with pac?
     
  13. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    It's been a duck since Pac stopped Oscar.

    If he wanted it, he's one of the most powerful figures in the sport right now, he would get it.
     
  14. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I seriously think he's concerned that Roger could not be there before committing to the fight.
     
  15. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yep.

    It also seems strange that he would send Heymon to negotiate, when he clearly has no intention to fight. Why? I think it's because Pacquiao accepted his demands. He was happy for the fight to break down when it suited him, but when Pacquiao accepted? He's not there.

    By the way, I seemed like a dick to you earlier, so my apologies. I think you're a good poster and I usually agree with you.
     
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