Eastside Boxing Heavyweight Rankings debate

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  1. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    those wins were a long time ago now. Since Povetkins win over Chambers he hasnt faced anyone in the top 25. Haye has beaten Barret who was top 25, Ruiz who was top 10 and Valuev who was top 5.

    Can you objectivley explain why you would rank Chagaev and Chambers ahead of Haye??
     
    robpalmer135, Jul 19, 2010
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  2. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Essentially, if neither of these guys had lost to Wlad, they would be rated above Haye based on their victories/resumes.

    So Haye gets rated higher because he hasn't fought Wlad, who is the 1# rated fighter. This doesn't seem quite right. I assume that if Haye fought Wlad and lost, you wouldn't have any problem rating him lower than Chagaev or Chambers?

    As for Povetkin, he simply has more and better wins at heavy, even if most of them were 2007/08. He's still the 1# contender in the WBO and IBF.

    Granted, #3-8 on these rankings are very close, and the fact that Haye has recent wins works in Haye's favor. If Haye scores a win against a Top 10 fighter by the end of the year I'd have no problem ranking him #3.
     
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  3. robpalmer135

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    vote here on who you rank higher Haye or Povetkin

    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=241065[/url]
     
    robpalmer135, Jul 19, 2010
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  4. Loufatski

    Loufatski Boxing Junkie banned

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    Fightnews is pretty much right on, although spots 7-10 are questionable and maybe Chambers should be in there...

    01. Wladimir Klitschko
    02. Vitali Klitschko
    03. David Haye
    04. Tomasz Adamek
    05. Alexander Povetkin
    06. Chris Arreola
    07. Denis Boytsov
    08. Nikolai Valuev
    09. Ruslan Chagaev
    10. Odlanier Solis
     
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  5. RUSKULL

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    Fair enough. :thumbsup Adamek has beaten a better, more prime Heavyweight than David Haye.

    Hard to see how Valuev is still ranked higher than Haye since Haye did win their fight, even if it was close.
     
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  6. robpalmer135

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    I think Valuev+Ruiz+Barret beats Arreola+Estrada+Golota.

    Also Hayes resume at the lower weights is better.
     
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