"Negotiations", really, what was agreed upon...

I don't care who anyone thinks will win May/Pac, it really doesn't matter who you root for or against, it's not a "*****"/"*******" thing. I need to know how anyone knows, or could you post a link that illustrates, the details of these "failed" negotiations. I assume you can speculate on what WASN'T agreed upon, but can someone provide information that reflects what WAS agreed upon. Purse split, drug testing, ring size, gloves, venue, etc. I have seen the "we have agreed on drug testing" quotes, what did they agree upon specifically, "we have an agreement on the details and are waiting on..." really? Like what details have been agreed upon, specifically? Now we can agree that it was said negotiations won't happen in the media and whatever, but that absolutely didn't happen, at least in the case of Arum. He obviously had regular interaction with the media, so I don't know that this would alleviate the responsibility of providing some details to support the idea of "on going negotiations".

Lastly think about the lengths that both sides went to during the first round of negotiations to make the fight, or at a minimum save face in the media, yet this time it was just "deadline passed, couldn't do it" followed by apologies and positive remarks? No one thinks this entire deal is strange, and that something obviously is missing? It's not that anyone is right or wrong, I don't know enough to say, but I'm telling you this is not as it appears and it wouldn't surprise me at all if there isn't a mutual agreement to not have the fight yet and continue allowing it to build, I can't substantiate that but something isn't right is all I'm saying. It has nothing to do with Pac and May being cowards or duckers, there is something else happening here, that much is obvious to me, but what isn't so obvious.

 

I don't necessarily disagree with the fact that Floyd carries "blame" if you could call it that, he obviously is in on whatever long term plans are in the works or HE WOULD BE IN THE MEDIA TALKING. He is a prideful man, almost to a fault, do you think he would allow dudes like Skip Bayless, Micheal Wilbon, and the like to call him a coward or that he's running without responding, if he didn't have the comfort of some kind of "ace in the hole"? I mean if you are familiar with boxing, you've seen Floyd confront Brian Kinney multiple times regarding his opinions, and did so openly, even if PBF was still wrong he didn't shy away from the conflict. The behavior of both camps is outside of historically predictable norms set by both, when you have two people/entities acting this far outside of parameters of "normal behavior" it tells me something is fishy.

Why would Top Rank and Team Pac not be upset at the wasted time and effort that went into fruitless negotiations? Again if you look at the last negotiations, they were negotiations, in which both sides went to great lengths to get the fight done. They enlisted the help of an arbitrator for God's sake, yet this time it was an apologetic and understanding we can't get it done right now and move on? Again there is something strange about this situation and I'm curious as to what makes some so sure there were negotiations to begin with and how you could arrive at the conclusion that "everything was agreed upon" and Floyd simply walked away from it. I'm just not buying it, it's not a defense of Floyd, I'm questioning the entire process and instead of biting hook, line, and sinker on this "story", I would like to see the facts and with as many real boxing fans as post on this site, I would assume someone has some information that could clear some of this up. You'll never know, if you never ask the questions.

 

I would rather not go this route and turn this into the same thread that's repeated 250 times as is, but I will entertain it to this degree, does this sound like a man who just finished "negotiating" anything, does it sound like a man who has even put any thought into negotiating anything? Seriously, this doesn't strike you as an odd response?

 

Thanks for bringing the overall content of the thread down, good looking out. You might as well have found a clip of a 12 year old making "fart noises" with his armpit.

 

Ok man, and I ask you again how do you arrive at this conclusion, "both sides agreed", man obviously not. Again I'm defending no one here, I feel there is something much bigger than that working, I don't know what and I admit that, but if there was a "media ban" how do you know both sides agreed, how did you know about the deadline for Friday at 11:00 p.m PST, how do you know that both sides are cool with drug testing, etc.?