Is martinez's victory over pavlik better than any victory williams has?

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Ability wise they have proved to be very similar, and everyone would like to see a rematch.

    but in terms of resume is martinez's defeat of pavlik better than any of williams victories?
     
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  2. nickfoxx

    nickfoxx On The Nod Full Member

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    good question, i think sergio's victory is stronger than any of paul's big wins -- over margarito, winky, and the unconvincing one over sergio himself
     
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  3. SportsLeader

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    Williams got by Marg, Winky and Martinez - Sergio beat a weight drained Pavllik

    1-0 to Paul Williams
     
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  4. Boxed Ears

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    Possibly better than any single Williams victory, but Williams' resume of wins is much, much deeper.
     
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  5. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    This.

    The Pavlik win edges Williams' best win (Margarito).

    It also helps that Martinez got the better of him in their actual fight.
     
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    This is the question. is it the best single victory. no need to debate resume as a whole.
     
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  7. Boxed Ears

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    I'll add whatever I want to add. I'm Boxed Ears. The power of my Hagvatar alone allows for this.
     
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  8. lufcrazy

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    So you think each of those victories is better than beating the mw champ?
     
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  9. SportsLeader

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    A middleweight champ coming off an injury, severely weight affected and not 100%.

    Williams beat his opponents at their best weights, and beat Margarito and Martinez in their primes.
     
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  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    If you have Williams beating Martinez then obviously not
     
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  11. lufcrazy

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    All this is in hindsight. did you expect sergio to beat pavlik pre fight?

    i thought he would get bloody murdered
     
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  12. SportsLeader

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    No, only becuase I didn't know that Pavlik would be in such poor condition.

    Although I gave Martinez a chance because of his speed. The outcome surprised me, but it was no massive upset
     
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  13. ricardoparker93

    ricardoparker93 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Martinez (if he had any luck) would have wins over Pavlik, Cintron and Williams himself. As it is Martinez has the single best win, a clear decision over Pavlik moving up in weight whereas Williams best win would be either Margarito or Martinez to very close decisions.
     
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  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    That is like saying that beating daniel santos is better than beating margo, or beating mayorga is better than beating forrest.
     
    lufcrazy, Jul 21, 2010
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  15. emallini

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    Williams win against Martinez is better than Martinez win against Williams
     
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