Is Tyson in your Top 10 all-time heavies

You dont think that HBO was building towards Tyson being the next big thing to fill the void that Holmes and the rest of the unpopular champions had created through the early part of the 80's? I think they did, and I think King knew without champions or ranked contenders he was going to be left out of the picture. I dont think King had a tournament on HBO without Tyson, after Cooney and Spinks took off.

 

No doubt. The latter half of the list, but I can't bring myself to place him outside of a top 10. I'm in the same boat as Magoo and SuzieQ.

 

I'm not taking it seriously at all. But I'm sure many people here would agree that the order is not accurate. Achievement wise, and head to head, Ali blows Marciano out of the water.
Little boy? You don't even know me. yeah, my avatar pic was just to annoy BoxedEars and all the other Valuev "worshipers". It's all just a joke anyway. I'll change it if you want- Maybe Marciano would be better?
By the way, your name just spells bias. Of course you have him #1 with a name like that.

 

He is in my top-5 to top-7 given the day.. For every reason you could give for Dempsey being ranked highly (and many would rank him similarly), Tyson trumps him.

 

Tyson beat more, top-level (in head to head terms) fighters than Foreman, Dempsey, Liston and Johnson.

Foreman's best wins were a heading-towards-shot Frazier, a chinny Norton, a b-level Lyle who made the bulk of his reputation on laying down Foreman and a chinny Moorer who never really proved himself in the weightclass.

Tyson beat past/current/future champs in Berbick, Tucker, Holmes, Spinks, Thomas, Tubbs, Bruno, Botha, Smith, Seldon... He beat huge punching contenders the likes of Ruddock and Stewart. If you give credit to Dempsey and Liston for laying waste to their era's HW division in short time, Tyson did it to a more talented, bigger, harder punching division in a short time.

Johnson is merely an antique who fought little white men once he got the title and got KO'd by a little white man at an age where Tyson was already well-ensconced as King of the World. That's not even a contest.

 

That's not what I implied at all. I simply stated a fact. Whether or not it was already staged, bottom line is Tyson steamrolled through the unification tournament like Santa on a christmas night. You still have to go out there and win the matches. It's the same with this super middleweight tourney right now..who ever comes out of this the winner...is going to have quite a respectable resume. Tyson should get credit for unifying all 3 belts in a span of a year, and in dominating fashion. He then would later add the Lineal Championship from Spinks making it 4 major belts(IBF WBA WBC and RING MAGAZINE) in just a 2 year span!

 

I've had him awhile back outside my top 10. He got up a little bit higher, I think to 7-8 at one point. Currently, he stands at #9. He's a definite top 10... it's just a question of order. Top 5 is certainly way steep considering his dramatic losses, but 6-10 feels right.

 

I have him at no.7. Based on resume and appliance of skillset.

 

Oh sorry Tommy I didn't realise it was against the law to have a favourite fighter and strangely consider him the best ever as well?? atsch

And oh yeah Ali blows Marciano out of the water by getting his ass whopped by Frazier, Norton twice, Leon Spinks (!!), Earnie Shavers, Jimmy Young, Holmes, Berbick, never giving Foreman a rematch, and glorifying the title against such stellar names as Brian London, Rudi Lubbers, Richard Dunn etc etc - don't be a sheep all your life mate - try to think for yourself and stop letting the Ali-bull cloud your logic

 

You are worse than duranimal

 

I'll consider that a complement - he must be a top man - he definately has a cool name - but then again Tommy Gunn wouldn't like that because that would indicate that Durananimal might have a favourite fighter and we can't have that can we?? And god forbid he thought his favourite fighter might have a chance of beating Tommy Boy's??!! :-(

 

Yes, below 5 though

 

Ali, Holmes, Foreman, Holyfield, and Louis are top 5 in my opinion.

 

Lewis, Frazier, and even Marciano belong. Like it or not the the Klitschko's will belong or at least come very close when it's all said and done. Bowe and Liston are excellent H2H but just miss IMO. Walcott and Charles were great P4P fighters but H2H they are lacking a bit. Dempsey, Tunney, Johnson, and a few others don't have the right combination of size and skill IMO... great fighters no doubt, but not big and durable enough.

 

easily top ten he done enough in the 80s alone