Mayweather is a disgrace to the sport & has not chased history like the Sugar Rays...

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  1. cuco10701

    cuco10701 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mayweather is a disgrace to the sport & has not chased history like the Sugar Rays & De La Hoya
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    Floyd Mayweather is a disgrace to the sport. I have been a Floyd supporter from the beginning and have ranked him as pound for pound the best fighter in the world since 2003 when Roy Jones struggled in his first fight with Antonio Tarver. Floyd is so versatile and so good defensively that I did not think there was a fighter in the world that should have been ranked ahead of him. Plus even though he took the Roy Jones road in 2003 and 2004 and milked HBO as he fought one mediocre opponent after another, I felt that his resume which included wins over Jose Luis Castillo, a streaking Angel Manfredy, and a respected champion in Genaro Hernandez who had never lost at the weight merited his position atop the pound for pound rankings. Even after the Christmas holidays I backed Mayweather and blamed Manny Pacquiao for not submitting to Floyds demands for drug testing. I figured if you are clean why not take the tests, its a 40 million dollar payday. So I continued to back Mayweather and blamed Arum for not making the fight, but since then Pacquiao has made it clear that he wants the fight and seems to have made the concessions necessary for the fight to move forward, but Mayweather has not made an effort to make the fight a reality and this is going to hurt his legacy. Great fighters from Sugar Ray Leonard to Ray Robinson always sought out the best available competition. They challenged themselves because they knew it would fatten their bank accounts as well as their legacies. Say what you want about Oscar De La Hoya, yah maybe he was not Sugar Ray Leonard, but after a few years of seasoning, he always challenged himself. From Felix Trinidad to a huge Bernard Hopkins to an undefeated Shane Mosley, Oscar always fought the best. He may not have won all the time, but at least he tried, and that is a lot more than Floyd Mayweather has done.
     
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  2. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    legacy won't pay bills.
     
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  3. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Brent Alderson dont know **** about boxing
     
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  4. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyds **** is paid for, what about Brents
     
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  5. cuco10701

    cuco10701 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    it doesn't pay the bills,but when you are already financially set for life,why not fight the top dogs in the game....something that sugar ray,thomas hearns,marvin hagler,roberto duran,etc,etc,etc did!
     
    cuco10701, Jul 22, 2010
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  6. nastynas

    nastynas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    SRR was about the money just as much, if not more, than Floyd. He stated himself that he didnt even like the sport, it just gave him the opportunity to make a lot of money.
     
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  7. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    If Mayweather would have taken that loss against Castillo first time around (even though I thought Mayweather edged it)...do you think Mayweather would have taken the legacy route instead of the money route? Would have been interesting to see how that played out...
     
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  8. justcause

    justcause Sword of Justice Full Member

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    alot of fools are basing their opinion on what bob arum said....
    may i remind everyone that bob is a lawyer.....
    nuff said...
     
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  9. Wiesiek

    Wiesiek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It would in this particular example. It would be the biggest payday of his life.
     
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  10. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    This is true.

    All the biggest names in boxing negotiated the **** out of their contracts.
     
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  11. finalfight

    finalfight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And the same could be twisted around and said about Manny. He most certainly hasn't fought the best in the business and even if it was argued that he had, he fought them under his terms and conditions and at a catch weight which benefited him. What's he going to do - fight Margo at 140?

    Margo certainly doesn't deserve the chance but if he mauls Manny having been destroyed by Mosley who was later made to look like an amateur by Mayweather it may well prove telling.

    Anyway, concrete vs A-side meth... Nice one Arum!
     
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  12. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah but the problem is that the more money that is on offer the more sportsmen will sell their soul to get what they want.

    part of the romanticism of past fighters is that they weren't as mercenary and 'false' as some today...but that doesn't mean in the least that they wouldn't have been if the stakes were higher.

    money is a disease that corrupts the value system of sportsmen.
     
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  13. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Bills or not legacy plays a major role in this sport especially when great fighters are involved.
     
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  14. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Compare the NBA, and the likes of Jordan vs Karl Malone. Whose getting paid more today? Whose got the rings and all of the records? Jordan is still in the top 10 with all his endorsements. Legacy pays if you do it right.
     
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  15. golden boxer

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    random means random why does pacquiao need 14 days of cut off date what does he want to do in that time? stupid *******s and he wants a 50/50 split when mayweather is the bigger ppv draw
    mayweather vs de la hoya 2.4million pacquiao vs de la hoya 1.25million
    mayweather vs marquez 1million pacquiao vs marquez 400k
    mayweather vs hatton 920k pacquiao vs hatton 800k
    mayweather vs mosley 1.4million pacquiao vs cotto 1.25million
     
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