Tysons era compared to Wald's today

The 80's HW's sucked in terms of talent, no better than today's division.
Buster Douglas was rubbish but he absolutely schooled Mike Tyson before putting him to sleep.
Tyson was very exciting when he beat up on less talented fighters however, and that is the reason why he is so very overrated despite the fact that his biggest win was either old, beer bellied Larry Holmes or LHW ATG Michael Spinks.

 

Couldn't agree less, the 80s most definitely did not suck in terms of talent.

The problem was mentality, all the drugs and booze and party lifestyles at the time.

A focused, say, prime Tim Witherspoon in this era would be a major contender and probably belt-holder.

 

This post isn't even worthy of a response.

 

:good

 

The big difference here is that Tyson was in the twilight of his career looking for a soft touch in Danny Williams to get back on to the HW elite in search of another title shot and big payday. And this is the man that Vitaly chose to fight in a title defense.

Tyson's era was more technically sound. I think the 80s was one of the best era's when it came to the quality contenders. But when faced with dominant Champs like Holmes and Tyson they get a bad rap.

Tyson's era

Pinklon Thomas
Tyrell Biggs
Michael Spinks
Tony Tucker
Frank Bruno
Tony Tubbs
Bonecrusher Smith
Berbick
Dokes
Douglas
Carl Williams
Witherspoon

These fighters are either better or on par with the current Heavyweight landscape.

Wlad's era

Arreola
Peter
Chagaev
Haye
Povetkin
Dimitrenko
Ibraminov
Lyachovich
Briggs
Kevin Johnson
Adamek
Chambers
McCline
Byrd

 

Tyson's opponents may not necessarily have been leagues above Wlad's, but at least he fought most of them when they were either prime or close to prime, as opposed to Wlad fighting a whole generation of guys who were 35+ and had been beaten half to **** on more than a few occasions.. Sure, he's taken on some younger guys with good records like Chambers, Brock and a few others, while Tyson fought an older Holmes, but this wasn't the norm for either man...

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

i don't want him to do any of those things!

but that was a funny post!

 

Actually a thread was already done disproving that notion.

Don King offered Lewis $13.5 million dollars before Lewis fought Ray Mercer.
Lewis declined because he wanted more money and refused to give King any options whatsoever.

They talks loomed back and forth but King never budged and neither did the Lewis camp.

So King fed him Seldon instead, a fighter who was under Don's control and more importantly had a belt around his waist. Holyfield came next for financial reasons. Evander took $8 million and was willing to play ball with Don so he got his shot.

Lewis didn't sue because Tyson wouldn't fight him but because Tyson was "holding hostage" a belt that he had a guaranteed title shot for and therefore he was awarded for lost revenue which would have been forgiven or rather added in to the purse had he fought Tyson. Tyson wasn't afraid of Lewis and neither was Don King. Even after the Mercer fight this could have happened but Lewis simply couldn't come to terms with King. In fact Lewis didn't gain any value in his win over Ray, rather it only showed that a Tyson caliber fighter would have dispatched him.

Its no coincidence that when they actually fought it was under Shelley Finkel.

 

can you show me these so called "facts"?

or are you going by what some idiots are saying in a forum?

 

There is no way in hell that Wlads era is better then Tysons!!

Bonecrusher Smith would murder alot of these guys early.
Tyrell Biggs would box circles around many of them as would Tucker, Carl Williams and Pinklon Thomas.

I would argue that a Prime Tim Witherspoon could beat either Klit..

Maybe I am a little biased because I saw all these guys growing up, but my initial thought would be that Tysons is better..